How Do You Calculate the Location of a Short in an Underground Cable?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the location of a short circuit in a 4.00 km underground telephone cable by measuring resistances at different terminals. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem and the implications of a short circuit on resistance measurements.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between resistance and the lengths of the segments of the cable, questioning how to express these relationships mathematically. Some participants suggest defining lengths and resistances in terms of variables, while others express confusion about the implications of a short circuit on resistance measurements.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of equations based on the resistance measurements, but there is no consensus on a clear method to solve the problem yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific information about the cross-sectional area of the wires and the uniformity of material properties, which may affect the calculations. The original poster's uncertainty about the equations to use is also highlighted.

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Homework Statement



An underground telephone cable, consisting of a pair of wires, has suffered a short somewhere along its length (at point P in the Figure). The telephone cable is 4.00 km long, and in order to determine where the short is, a technician first measures the resistance between terminals AB; then he measures the resistance across the terminals CD. The first measurement yields 15.00 Ω; the second 105.00 Ω. Where is the short? Give your answer as a distance from point C. Assume that the telephone wires are of uniform diameter.


Homework Equations


I'm sure which equations to use.
R=sigmaL/A, I=V/R

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how to start on this problem. I know a short circuit is when the resistance is equal to zero, but if it is zero than length ends up being zero due to the linear relationship. I don't get this problem. Please help in any way that you can.
 

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If AP is nearly equal to BP and is equal to x, Then what is the resistance across AB?
What is the length CP and DP? What is the resistance across CD?
 
R=sigma(x)/A, but area is not given either. I really don't understand.
 
there's a short between the 2 conductors in the cable, but the resistance from A to B is not 0 because the current still has to go from A to P and from P to B through a long cable.

you don't know sigma/A, but it's the same everywhere. If point P is x metres from C then the resistance of the wire CP is (sigma/A)x \Omega[/tex] . the 2 measurements will give you 2 equations that you kan use to find (sigma/A) and x
 

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