Shortest Distance Between Two Latitude/Longitude Coordinates

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the shortest distance between two cities, Bangkok and Havana, using their latitude and longitude coordinates. The problem is situated within the context of spherical geometry, assuming the Earth is a perfect sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to apply spherical trigonometry to find the distance between the two coordinates, expressing uncertainty about starting the problem. Some participants suggest considering the problem from a vector perspective instead of focusing solely on spherical trigonometry.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding viewing the problem as a vector issue, and resources have been shared to assist in understanding spherical trigonometry.

Contextual Notes

There is a note that the problem was initially misclassified as a physics problem, which has since been corrected to a pre-calculus context. The original poster expresses confusion about the application of the equations provided and the lack of side lengths or angles for the spherical triangle.

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Homework Statement



We need to find the shortest distance between two given cities. For this I'll use Bangkok, Thailand (13°N, 100°E) and Havana, Cuba (23°N, 82°W ). Earth is assumed to be perfectly spherical with a radius of 6.4x106m. These aren't the places we were given but the coordinates are similar.

Homework Equations



The only equations we have are
The Law of Sines: ##\frac{sin(a)}{sin(A)} = \frac{sin(b)}{sin(B)} = \frac{sin(c)}{sin(C)}##
The Law of Cosines for Sides: ##cos(c) = cos(a)cos(b) + sin(a)sin(b)cos(C)##
and
The Law of Cosines for Angles: ##cos(A) = -cos(B)cos(C) + sin(B)sin(C)cos(a)##

The Attempt at a Solution



Honestly I'm not even sure how to start with this. I began by drawing a spherical triangle and labeling the points, with two points being the coordinates of the cities and the third being at (0°, 0°). Continuing from here is where I get lost seeing as how I know nothing about math with spherical triangles aside from the equations given above. Once I find the angular length of the great circle arc connecting the two cities, I know that I use the relation ##s = r\theta## where s is the arc length, but I have no idea how to find that side when I only have two coordinates and no side lengths or angles.
 
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Not a physics problem, let alone an advanced physics problem. Moved to Pre-calculus math HW forum.
 
SteamKing said:
Not a physics problem, let alone an advanced physics problem. Moved to Pre-calculus math HW forum.
Oops, my bad. I received it for an astrophysics class and saw a similar post in that forum so I assumed that's where it would be. Thanks for the info though.
 
transmini said:

Homework Statement



We need to find the shortest distance between two given cities. For this I'll use Bangkok, Thailand (13°N, 100°E) and Havana, Cuba (23°N, 82°W ). Earth is assumed to be perfectly spherical with a radius of 6.4x106m. These aren't the places we were given but the coordinates are similar.

Homework Equations



The only equations we have are
The Law of Sines: ##\frac{sin(a)}{sin(A)} = \frac{sin(b)}{sin(B)} = \frac{sin(c)}{sin(C)}##
The Law of Cosines for Sides: ##cos(c) = cos(a)cos(b) + sin(a)sin(b)cos(C)##
and
The Law of Cosines for Angles: ##cos(A) = -cos(B)cos(C) + sin(B)sin(C)cos(a)##

The Attempt at a Solution



Honestly I'm not even sure how to start with this. I began by drawing a spherical triangle and labeling the points, with two points being the coordinates of the cities and the third being at (0°, 0°). Continuing from here is where I get lost seeing as how I know nothing about math with spherical triangles aside from the equations given above. Once I find the angular length of the great circle arc connecting the two cities, I know that I use the relation ##s = r\theta## where s is the arc length, but I have no idea how to find that side when I only have two coordinates and no side lengths or angles.
There's plenty of information on the web about spherical trig and such.

This article may help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_distance
 
Forget about spherical trig for a moment. Just look at it as a vector problem, and you're trying to find the angle between two vectors. Start by figuring out the unit vectors that point in the direction from the center of the Earth to each city.
 

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