Should I learn calculus before self-studying physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether one should learn calculus before self-studying physics. Participants explore the relationship between mathematical prerequisites and the study of various physics topics, including classical mechanics, electromagnetism (E&M), and quantum mechanics (QM). The conversation includes suggestions for resources and approaches to self-study.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests creating a thread focused on self-studying physics, potentially dividing it into sections based on high school math and calculus-based physics.
  • Another participant mentions available online courses, including algebra and calculus-based options from Coursera and MIT OpenCourseWare.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of doing homework problems to understand physics, recommending a mix of textbooks and practice resources like Schaum's outlines.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of video courses for learning, with a preference expressed for self-study textbooks that include exercises.
  • One participant notes the increasing cost of textbooks as one advances in physics and highlights the need for multiple resources to grasp complex topics adequately.
  • A question is posed regarding the necessary mathematical background for studying classical mechanics, E&M, and QM, specifically asking if calculus should be learned first or if algebra-based physics books would suffice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of learning calculus before studying physics. Some suggest that calculus is essential, while others propose that algebra-based resources may be sufficient for initial learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various resources and approaches to self-study without reaching a consensus on the best path forward regarding the integration of calculus and physics learning.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in self-studying physics, particularly those considering their mathematical background and the types of resources available for learning.

Athanasios
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So, having seen micromass's marvelous thread on how to self [URL='https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/self-study-basic-high-school-mathematics/']study mathematics[/URL] I was wondering whether someone could create a similar thread just about physics? Because it would be really helpful to get advice on how to approach the subject and which textbooks to use and maybe it could be divided into two parts, like physics based on high school math and calculus based physics - just a suggestion. So, anyone up for this challenge? :)
 
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If you can Google up some university course descriptions you can find out what texts they use for their classes. Often you can get these for cheap at on-line booksellers if you Google those up.

Personally, it is necessary for me to "do the homework" to understand a subject. So yes, read the texts. But also do the questions in the texts. Do them out in full and write them up as though you were going to hand them into an instructor. If I don't do that then I don't understand the subject.

For some subjects I find the Schaum's outline series very valuable. They are quite modestly priced and full of worked examples. Just don't let them be the only text you ever read on a subject. They are good for practice and for getting past a concept that is giving you trouble. But they are not (in most cases) reference texts.
 
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I'm not sure about the coursera course because I don't fancy videos as a way to learn even though I see they will reference some textbooks. I believe I would be more comfortable with a textbook written in a self-study fashion and also have something like a Schaum's outline series because they seem to be full of exercises.
 
I self study a lot, but the books get very expensive. Especially once you move into the more modern areas of physics. Classical mechanics, E&M, and elementary Quantum Mechanics are pretty much unified across all books on their methods of teaching and order of presentation. When you get past those subjects, the presentation from book to book is drastically different in both complexity and description and you honestly need many books on the same subject to get a proper view. If you are interested in a particular subject I would be glad to give you the list of books I have used, personally.
 
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@cpsinkule Well it would be really helpful if you could give me a book or books on classical mechanics, E&M and elementary QM, but what is the needed mathematical background for those? Because I have not taken calculus yet. Would you advise on first learning calculus and then going through the process of learning physics, or should I just find some algebra based physics books?
 

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