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The discussion focuses on deriving the expressions for the forces {F_x} and {F_y} generated by an electric field when the variable x is much greater than a. The relevant equations are {F_x} = -KQq/{x^2} and {F_y} = KQqa/(2{x^3}). Participants suggest using Taylor series expansion to simplify the square root term in the force equations, specifically expanding the term 1/√(x² + a²) when x >> a. The conversation emphasizes the importance of identifying negligible terms in the expansion process to arrive at the correct force expressions.

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Homework Statement



I've got the following force generated by an electric field

{F_x} = - KQq\frac{1}{{x\sqrt {{x^2} + {a^2}} }}

{F_y} = \frac{{KQq}}{a}\left( {\frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{{\sqrt {{x^2} + {a^2}} }}} \right)

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I need to show that when x>>a:

{F_x} = - \frac{{KQq}}{{{x^2}}}

{F_y} = \frac{{KQqa}}{{2{x^3}}}

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I'm on the right track but I'm stuck here:

\frac{1}{{\sqrt {{x^2} + {a^2}} }} = \frac{1}{x}{\left( {1 + \frac{{{a^2}}}{{{x^2}}}} \right)^{ - \frac{1}{2}}}
 
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Have you heard of Taylor series? Why don't you try expanding the above term using taylor series and see which terms are negligible?
 


You are indeed on the right track. When x >> a, then \delta := \frac{a}{x} is very small. So you can expand
x \sqrt{1 + a^2 / x^2} = x \sqrt{1 + \delta^2} around \delta = 0.
 


Thanks for your responses anirudh215 and CompuChip, but I really don't know what you mean by "expand". If you could show some steps I might have a clue.
 


Do you know limits?

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baseballman said:
Thanks for your responses anirudh215 and CompuChip, but I really don't know what you mean by "expand". If you could show some steps I might have a clue.

Certain functions can be "expanded" around points, i.e. if you have a function f, and it is "expandable", then you can equate the value of that function about a point in terms of its derivatives.

The square root function above is one such function which is expandable. The Taylor series would be something like

\sqrt{1 + x} = 1 + \frac{x}{2} - \frac{x^{2}}{4.2!}...

You can read more about Taylor series here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series

Now, substitute \frac{a^{2}}{x^{2}} as y, and expand similar to above. See what you can do from here. Note: the number of terms I have used in the expansion above is enough for you to complete the sum. Just look at what is and isn't negligible. I'm just doubtful whether you calculated Fy properly.
 
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