Show that the T is a linear transformation

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The discussion revolves around the linearity of the transformation T defined from R2[x] to R4[x], where T(f(x)) = (x^3-x)f(x^2). Participants are examining the properties of linear transformations and the implications of the polynomial spaces involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the verification of linear transformation properties, specifically whether the demonstrated properties are sufficient. There is a focus on the definitions of the polynomial spaces R2[x] and R4[x], with some questioning the correct image space of the transformation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on verifying the properties of linear transformations, while others are exploring the implications of the polynomial degrees involved. There is an ongoing examination of whether the transformation's output space should be R4[x] or R6[x], with differing opinions on the definitions and properties of the polynomial spaces.

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There is confusion regarding the definitions of R2[x] and R4[x], particularly in relation to the degrees of polynomials. Some participants mention discrepancies in textbook definitions, which may affect the understanding of the transformation's output space.

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Homework Statement



T:R2[x] --> R4[x]
T(f(x)) = (x^3-x)f(x^2)

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The Attempt at a Solution


Let f(x) and g(x) be two functions in R2[x].
T(f(x) + g(x)) = T(f+g(x)) = (x^3-x)(f+g)(x^2) = (x^3-x)f(x^2) + (x^3-x)g(x^2) = T(f(x)) + T(g(x)).
let a be scalar in R:
aT(f(x)) = a(x^3-x)f(x^2) = (x^3-x)af(x^2) = T(af(x)).
 
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Dank2 said:

Homework Statement



T:R2[x] --> R4[x]
T(f(x)) = (x^3-x)f(x^2)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Let f(x) and g(x) be two functions in R2[x].
T(f(x) + g(x)) = T(f+g(x)) = (x^3-x)(f+g)(x^2) = (x^3-x)f(x^2) + (x^3-x)g(x^2) = T(f(x)) + T(g(x)).
let a be scalar in R:
aT(f(x)) = a(x^3-x)f(x^2) = (x^3-x)af(x^2) = T(af(x)).

So, what is your question for us?
 
Ray Vickson said:
So, what is your question for us?
Title, to show that T is linear transformation, what i did is enough?
 
Dank2 said:
Title, to show that T is linear transformation, what i did is enough?

I suggest you try to answer that for yourself. Ask yourself: have you verified all the required properties that a linear transformation would have? If you are unsure, then ask yourself which properties you think you have missed.
 
These are the two properties that is required, but the way that it's shown, since it's with a function, is correct?
 
Dank2 said:

Homework Statement



T:R2[x] --> R4[x]
What are R2[x] and R4[x]?
Are these polynomials with real coefficients of degree less than 2 and 4, respectively?
 
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Mark44 said:
What are R2[x] and R4[x]?
Are these polynomials with real coefficients of degree less than 2 and 4, respectively?
that's correct.
 
Mark44 said:
What are R2[x] and R4[x]?
Are these polynomials with real coefficients of degree less than 2 and 4, respectively?
I have been told now it should be R6[x].

How can i see that it's right?, that's it R6[x] and not R4[x] or i can't see it and it depends on f(x) and it's pre-defined?
 
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Dank2 said:
I have been told now it should be R6[x].
Who told you that?
Since ##f \in R_2[x]##, then f(x) = ax +b, right? According to the formula you posted, what is T[f(x)]?
Dank2 said:
How can i see that it's right?, that's it R6[x] and not R4[x] or i can't see it and it depends on f(x) and it's pre-defined?
 
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Mark44 said:
f∈R2[x]
Forgot about that simple fact.

T(f(x)) = T(ax+b)= (x3-x)*(ax2+b) , which is really a polynomial of degree 5 , so the image of transformation is indeed at R6[x] - All the polynomial of degree 5 or less.3
Mark44 said:
Who told you that?
class teacher.
 
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I got confused since different textbooks describe spaces like R6[x] as "polynomials of degree less than 6" and others describe the as "polynomials of degree less than or equal to 6." Also, the notation I've seen many times is p2[x] to mean the same as your R2[x].

The work you did in the first post seems OK to me, but I think the intent of the problem is that you should show how things work with the specific spaces that are given. It should be easy to show that T[f + g] = T[f] + T[g] and that T[af] = aT[f], but I believe they want you to use generic functions in R2[x].
 

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