Showing a limit exists using differentiability

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The discussion revolves around a problem in real analysis concerning the existence of a limit for a function \( f \) that is differentiable on an interval, given that the derivative's absolute value is bounded by 1. The original poster is tasked with showing that the limit of \( f(a_n) \) exists as \( n \) approaches infinity, where \( a_n \) is a sequence converging to a point \( a \) within the interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the mean value theorem and the properties of bounded sequences. The original poster considers whether the existence of the derivative implies the limit of \( f(a_n) \) exists. Others suggest using the mean value theorem to establish bounds on the differences \( |f(a_m) - f(a_n)| \) and question the assumption that a bounded sequence is Cauchy.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the properties of the sequence \( a_n \) and the function \( f \). Some participants have provided guidance on applying the mean value theorem and have noted that the sequence \( f(a_n) \) is Cauchy, which suggests it converges. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's reasoning or the completeness of the argument presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and properties of convergent and Cauchy sequences, as well as the implications of differentiability in the context of limits. There is a recognition that additional clarification may be needed regarding the conditions under which the sequences are considered Cauchy.

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Homework Statement


Assume f:(a,b)→ℝ is differentiable on (a,b) and that |f'(x)| < 1 for all x in (a,b). Let an
be a sequence in (a,b) so that an→a. Show that the limit as n goes to infinity of f(an) exists.

Homework Equations


We've learned about the mean value theorem, and all of that fun stuff.

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know where to start so I brainstormed a couple of things I noticed[/B]
I know that since |f'(x)| is always less than one, any sequence of points will be bounded. Since they are bounded they are cauchy.
I also know that
## lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h} ## exists for all x. I assume this should also mean that ## lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{f(a_n)-f(a)}{a_n - a} ## exists. I think with these two facts I can construct a proof but I don't know if either of the two are correct
 
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B3NR4Y said:

Homework Statement


Assume f:(a,b)→ℝ is differentiable on (a,b) and that |f'(x)| < 1 for all x in (a,b). Let an
be a sequence in (a,b) so that an→a. Show that the limit as n goes to infinity of f(an) exists.

Homework Equations


We've learned about the mean value theorem, and all of that fun stuff.

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know where to start so I brainstormed a couple of things I noticed[/B]
I know that since |f'(x)| is always less than one, any sequence of points will be bounded. Since they are bounded they are cauchy.
I also know that
## lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h} ## exists for all x. I assume this should also mean that ## lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{f(a_n)-f(a)}{a_n - a} ## exists. I think with these two facts I can construct a proof but I don't know if either of the two are correct
Hint:

Take two element of the sequence, ##a_n## and ##a_m##, and apply the mean value theorem for these two values.
That should give you an interesting upper bound for ## |f(a_n)-f(a_m)|##.

It is not true that a bounded sequence is Cauchy.
But, a convergent sequence is a Cauchy sequence, and in ℝ a Cauchy sequence has a limit. This, together with the upper bound for ## |f(a_n)-f(a_m)|## should lead to a solution.
 
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Ok so applying the mean value theorem, there is an x in (am,an) so that ## \frac{f(a_m) - f(a_n)}{a_m - a_n} = f'(x) ## taking the absolute value of both sides, ## |f(a_m) - f(a_n)| < |a_m - a_n| ##. Since an is convergent, |am - an| is always less than some epsilon greater than zero (because it is a convergent sequence in R and therefore Cauchy), and so |f(am) - f(an)| is also always less than that epsilon. This is the definition of a cauchy sequence, so the sequence f(an) must have a limit.

Is this the right path?
 
B3NR4Y said:
Ok so applying the mean value theorem, there is an x in (am,an) so that ## \frac{f(a_m) - f(a_n)}{a_m - a_n} = f'(x) ## taking the absolute value of both sides, ## |f(a_m) - f(a_n)| < |a_m - a_n| ##. Since an is convergent, |am - an| is always less than some epsilon greater than zero (because it is a convergent sequence in R and therefore Cauchy), and so |f(am) - f(an)| is also always less than that epsilon. This is the definition of a cauchy sequence, so the sequence f(an) must have a limit.

Is this the right path?
Yes.
Essentially you have that ##(f(a_n))_n## is a Cauchy sequence, therefore convergent.

Maybe a remark: where you say "is always less than some epsilon", you should add "for n and m sufficiently large". But that is probably what you implicitely meant.
 
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