Showing Limit of xy^3/(x^2+y^2) = 0 using Definition

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The problem involves demonstrating that the limit of the function xy^3/(x^2+y^2) approaches 0 as (x,y) approaches (0,0) using the formal definition of a limit in multivariable calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the definition of the limit by substituting values and expressing the limit conditionally based on epsilon and delta.
  • Some participants question the validity of the limit being zero, suggesting that evaluating the limit along certain paths (e.g., y=0) leads to different conclusions.
  • Others propose using polar coordinates to simplify the limit evaluation, expressing the function in terms of r and theta.
  • One participant notes the importance of considering both the numerator and denominator when evaluating limits.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the limit being explored. Some participants have provided insights into using polar coordinates, while others have raised concerns about the assumptions made in the original poster's approach. There is no explicit consensus on the limit's value yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to use the formal definition of limits and the implications of evaluating the limit along different paths.

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Homework Statement


Apply the definition of the limit to show that

lim (x,y)-->(0,0) xy^3/(x^2+y^2) = 0


Homework Equations


Definition of the limit:
lim (x,y)-->(a,b) f(x,y) = L if for every number epsilon > 0 there is a corresponding number delta > 0 such that if (x,y) is in the domain and 0 < sqrt((x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2) < delta then |f(x,y) - L| < epsilon

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I've just plugged in the numbers:

Let epsilon > 0. We want to find delta > 0 such that
if 0 < sqrt(x^2 + y^2) < delta then |xy^3/(x^2 + y^2) - 0| < epsilon

I have no idea what to do next.
Note that it says to show that this is the limit using the definition given above.
 
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Is not true that the limit is 0.
If you let [itex]y=0[/itex] and [itex]x \to 0[/itex], we have the
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1}{x} \ne 0[/tex]
 
If y = 0 then xy^3 = 0 then xy^3/(x^2+y^2) = 0/x^2 = 0 so the limit must be 0
 
u can't take limit of the numerator without taking limit of the denominator so u basically wrong
 
Wolfram?
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim+%28x%2Cy%29-%3E%280%2C0%29+xy^3%2F%28x^2+%2B+y^2%29
 
sry my bad :D
 
TheAntithesis said:
If y = 0 then xy^3 = 0 then xy^3/(x^2+y^2) = 0/x^2 = 0 so the limit must be 0

Oh yes, sure.
 
I would switch to polar coordinates- that way the "distance to (0, 0)" is given by the single variable, r.

In polar coordinates, the function is
[tex]\frac{(r cos(\theta)(r sin(\theta))^3}{r^2}= r^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)[/tex]

Of course, [itex]|cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)|\le 1[/itex] for all [itex]\theta[/itex].
 
Ok let me know if this makes any sense at all...

After changing it to polar coordinates, we get [itex]\lim_{r \to 0} r^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)[/itex]

Let [itex]\epsilon > 0[/itex]. We want to find [itex]\delta > 0[/itex] such that

if [itex]0<r< \delta[/itex] then [itex]|r^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta) - 0| < \epsilon[/itex]

since [itex]|cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta)| \le 1[/itex] for all [itex]\theta[/itex]

[itex]r^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta) \le r^2[/itex]

Thus if we choose [itex]\delta^2 = \epsilon[/itex] and let [itex]0<r<\delta[/itex] then

[itex]|r^2 cos(\theta)sin^3(\theta) - 0| \le r^2 \le \delta^2 = \epsilon[/itex]

And hence [itex]\lim_{(x,y) \to (0,0)} = 0[/itex]
 
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