Showing that a ring is an integral domain

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the ring ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}## is an integral domain. Participants explore the necessary properties and definitions related to integral domains, particularly focusing on the absence of zero divisors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss whether it is necessary to verify all axioms of a ring, such as commutativity and the existence of a multiplicative identity. There is a focus on the implications of zero divisors and how they relate to the structure of the ring. Some suggest that properties from the integers can be inherited, while others question how to demonstrate the absence of zero divisors through contradiction.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the properties of the ring and the implications of zero divisors. There is ongoing exploration of methods to show that every non-zero element has a multiplicative inverse, with some uncertainty about specific examples and their inverses. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is constrained by the requirement to work within the integers, which affects the nature of inverses and the properties being examined. There is also mention of the differences that arise when considering other rings, such as ##\mathbb{Z}_6[\sqrt{d}]##.

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Homework Statement


Show that ##\mathbb{Z} [\sqrt{d}] = \{a+b \sqrt{d} \ | \ a,b,d \in \mathbb{Z} \}## is an integral domain

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Do I have to go through all of the axioms to do this? For example, do I have to show that it is an abelian group under addition, that multiplication is associative, and that the distributive property holds, on top of showing that multiplication is commutative and that there is a multiplicative identity and that there are no zero divisors?
This would seem like a lot of unnecessary, but easy, work, so I was wondering if there is a faster way.
 
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Well, most of these attributes are quite obvious by the arithmetic rules in this ring. The essential part here is to see, that you don't get zero divisors from such extensions. If you want to go the long way, then you have to do it, but only for terms with ##\sqrt{d}## in it, the rest is inherited from ##\mathbb{Z}##. Since ##d \in \mathbb{Z}##, the shortest answer is probably ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}] \subseteq \mathbb{R}##. But it makes sense to convince yourself that ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}]## hasn't zero divisors, which is short enough to do and shows which properties of ##\mathbb{Z}## are actually used, in case a ring isn't the integers.
 
fresh_42 said:
Well, most of these attributes are quite obvious by the arithmetic rules in this ring. The essential part here is to see, that you don't get zero divisors from such extensions. If you want to go the long way, then you have to do it, but only for terms with ##\sqrt{d}## in it, the rest is inherited from ##\mathbb{Z}##. Since ##d \in \mathbb{Z}##, the shortest answer is probably ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}] \subseteq \mathbb{R}##. But it makes sense to convince yourself that ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}]## hasn't zero divisors, which is short enough to do and shows which properties of ##\mathbb{Z}## are actually used, in case a ring isn't the integers.
If I am trying to show that ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}]## has no divisors, do I proceed by a contradiction argument, such as, assume that ##(a+b \sqrt{d})(c + e \sqrt{d}) = 0##, and show that ##a=b=c=e=0##?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
If I am trying to show that ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{d}]## has no [ed.: zero] divisors, do I proceed by a contradiction argument, such as, assume that ##(a+b \sqrt{d})(c + e \sqrt{d}) = 0##, and show that ##a=b=c=e=0##?
Yes. And if you do it step by step, you see the properties of the integers which are needed, e.g. it isn't true for ##\mathbb{Z}_6[\sqrt{d}]##.
 
fresh_42 said:
Yes. And if you do it step by step, you see the properties of the integers which are needed, e.g. it isn't true for ##\mathbb{Z}_6[\sqrt{d}]##.
Well if I expand it out and compare the two sides I get the two equations ac + bed = 0 and ae + bc = 0, but I don't see how this shows that a = b = c = e = 0
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Well if I expand it out and compare the two sides I get the two equations ac + bed = 0 and ae + bc = 0, but I don't see how this shows that a = b = c = e = 0

This integral domain is actually a field. You should be able to show every non-zero element has a multiplicative inverse. That would show that it's an integral domain.
 
Dick said:
This integral domain is actually a field. You should be able to show every non-zero element has a multiplicative inverse. That would show that it's an integral domain.
I don't see how every element has an inverse. For example, what is the inverse of ##2+\sqrt{2}##? It can't be ##1-\frac{1}{2} \sqrt{2}##, because ##1/2## is not an integer.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
I don't see how every element has an inverse. For example, what is the inverse of ##2+\sqrt{2}##? It can't be ##1-\frac{1}{2} \sqrt{2}##, because ##1/2## is not an integer.

Oh right, sorry. I forgot you were working over the integers, not the rationals. Nevertheless, if there are no zero divisors over the rationals, there won't be over the integers. Correct?
 
So how can I show that there are no zero divisors?
 
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You have ##ac + bed = 0## and ##ae + bc = 0##. What does this mean for ##ace##?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
So how can I show that there are no zero divisors?

Pick an arbitrary nonzero element of the ring and write down its inverse. Say why it's always well-defined.
 
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