Showing that Energy-momentum relation is invariant

[Rubber Ducky]

Homework Statement

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A particle of mass m is moving in the +x-direction with speed u and has momentum p and energy E in the frame S.

(a) If S' is moving at speed v, find the momentum p' and energy E' in the S' frame.
(b) Note that E' \neq E and p' \neq p, but show that (E')^2-(p')^2c^2=E^2-p^2c^2

Homework Equations

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E=p^2c^2+m^2c^4
E'=\gamma mc^2=\frac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-\frac{(u')^2}{c^2}}}
p'=\gamma mu'=\frac{mu'}{\sqrt{1-\frac{(u')^2}{c^2}}}
u'=\frac{u-v}{1-\frac{uv}{c^2}}

The Attempt at a Solution

My prof says we need to use (a) to derive (b). It seems like it'd be easier a different way, but whatever. My strategy has been to show that (E')^2-(p')^2c^2=m^2c^4, which would complete the derivation.

I tried playing around with some algebra and got (E')^2=\frac{m^2c^4(c^2-uv)^2}{(c^2-u^2)(c^2-v^2)} and (p')^2=\frac{m^2(u-v)^2}{(1-\frac{uv}{c^2})^2(c^2-u^2)(c^2-v^2)}

I got a little overwhelmed with the algebra at this point. I'd like to know if this is right so far, at least, before trying anything else.

 

[vela]

For part (a), you should be able to show that
\begin{eqnarray*}
E' &= \gamma(E - \beta pc) \\
p'c &= \gamma(pc - \beta E)
\end{eqnarray*} where $\beta = v/c$ and $\gamma = 1/\sqrt{1-\beta^2}$.

Your expression for $E'^2$ looks okay. Divide both the numerator and denominator by $c^4$ and take the square root. You should be able to show the first equation above. Just make sure you keep track of the three $\gamma$'s you have in this problem.

 

[Rubber Ducky]

For part (a), you should be able to show that
\begin{eqnarray*}
E' &= \gamma(E - \beta pc) \\
p'c &= \gamma(pc - \beta E)
\end{eqnarray*} where $\beta = v/c$ and $\gamma = 1/\sqrt{1-\beta^2}$.

Your expression for $E'^2$ looks okay. Divide both the numerator and denominator by $c^4$ and take the square root. You should be able to show the first equation above. Just make sure you keep track of the three $\gamma$'s you have in this problem.

Thanks very much for the help. It worked like a charm - the last part of the derivation that I ended up using was pretty neat. My only worry is that my prof will wonder how I thought to express $E'$ and $cp'$ in that way.

 

[vela]

Look up the Lorentz transformation. You might already be familiar with it applied to x and t. It applies to all four-vectors.

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Look up the Lorentz transformation. :) You might already be familiar with it applied to x and t. It applies to all four-vectors.

Interesting - we've covered the Lorentz transformation, but not four-vectors. My class gives a brief overview of SR, but maybe I'll see it in future.

I have another question that I'm editing into the OP now - It's somewhat related, but I didn't want to flood the section with threads.

EDIT: Woops, guess it's been too long to edit. See you in the next thread XD