What Determines the Speed and Clarity of Signals in Wave Physics?

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The discussion centers on the definition and characteristics of signals in wave physics, particularly focusing on group velocity and phase velocity. A signal is defined as information, where the presence of a wave indicates the source is active. The conversation highlights the importance of modulation in radio waves, explaining how amplitude modulation creates sidebands that carry information. Additionally, it addresses the concept of Group Delay Distortion, which occurs due to dispersion and affects the integrity of the transmitted signal.

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  • Understanding of wave physics concepts, particularly group velocity and phase velocity.
  • Familiarity with modulation techniques, especially amplitude modulation.
  • Knowledge of signal transmission and the effects of dispersion on signal integrity.
  • Basic principles of radio frequency (RF) communications.
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  • Research the relationship between group velocity and phase velocity in wave propagation.
  • Study the principles of amplitude modulation and its application in radio communications.
  • Explore the concept of Group Delay Distortion and its impact on signal quality.
  • Investigate optical communications and how they relate to wave physics and signal transmission.
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What exactly is a signal in wave physics? Is any wave considered a signal? Like, consider a superposition of harmonic plane waves, is the signals it carries considered the envelope(that travels at the group velocity) or the individual rippes that travel at a the phase velocity?
 
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Links to your reading so far?
 
berkeman said:
Links to your reading so far?
I don't understand
 
Ahmed1029 said:
I don't understand
Please post links to the reading you have been doing so far to try to learn about this subject. We can help you a lot more if you show your efforts to figure out your questions, and ask *specific* questions about your reading. Show your efforts please...
 
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Please post links to the reading you have been doing so far to try to learn about this subject. We can help you a lot more if you show your efforts to figure out your questions, and ask *specific* questions about your reading. Show your efforts please...
I'm Reading modern optics by Fowles, but he doesn't really discuss this in his book. He just remarked that signals travel at group velocity and said no more, so I wanted to investigate what signals actually mean and what can be considered a signal. I searched for definitions online, but those weren't detailed enough so I thought someone might be able to help me here.
 
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Ahmed1029 said:
What exactly is a signal in wave physics? Is any wave considered a signal?
A signal is information. The presence of a single wave is actual information that the 'source' is switched on. The state 'on-off-on-off', with a switch, will transmit/carry useful binary information as with Morse Code etc. The amount of information governs the bandwidth occupied by a signal. It is worth while discussing this in terms of Radio Transmissions although it applies for all non-continuous waves. I find the optical equivalent less approachable - except for optical communications, of course.

If a radio wave is 'modulated', it can carry a signal. With amplitude modulation the ( eg low frequency square wave) modulating signal produces a string of symmetrical 'sidebands' above and below the carrier frequency.
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A 'photograph' of the RF waveform will be the same over the whole of a signal path. The speed of the information (group velocity) will be the same as the speed of the carrier wave the relationships between all the components of the RF signal will be the same.

But if there's any form of dispersion, the various sidebands will lose their original phase relationship; they arrive at different times and the demodulated waveform may be distorted significantly.
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This is termed 'Group Delay Distortion' and is usually caused by the various filters are used to restrict the channel width and in the receiver. It shows the difference in Wave and Group transit time (from Δω and Δk across the bandwidth), rather than the absolute transit time (from ω and k) which is often impossible to measure in practice.

But the absolute transmission time is usually of no consequence; it's the variation of transmission time that counts. Your 'perfect' analogue TV pictures are good (enough) at all distances and on all channel frequencies.
 

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