Simple BCS theory: question about the internal energy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the internal energy calculations in the context of BCS theory as presented in Tinkham's "Introduction to Superconductivity." Participants are examining the differences in internal energies between superconducting and normal states, particularly around the critical temperature (Tc), and the implications of specific heat behavior on these energies.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the graphical representation of internal energies in Tinkham's figure, suggesting that the integral of specific heats should vanish for the two energies to coincide above Tc.
  • Another participant points out that the finiteness of specific heat at Tc does not necessarily imply that the internal energies of the superconducting and normal states must be equal at that temperature.
  • A later reply corrects an earlier equation, indicating that the equality of internal energies does not lead to the vanishing of the integral, which adds complexity to the discussion.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the reasoning behind the equality of internal energies at Tc, indicating a lack of clarity on this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the implications of specific heat behavior for internal energy calculations, and there are multiple competing views regarding the equality of internal energies at the critical temperature.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the graphical representation of the data. The discussion also highlights issues with the LaTeX formatting of equations, which may affect clarity.

FranzDiCoccio
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Hi all,

I'm am reading chapter 3 of Tinkham's "Introduction to superconductivity".
At some point several thermodynamic quantities are considered (sec. 3.6.3).

In particular fig. 3 compares the internal energies of the superconducting and normal states,
showing that they are different below the critical temperature whereas they overlap above it.
Of course this makes definitely sense, but |'m puzzled by the calculations.

The internal energies are evaluated as integrals of the relevant specific heats. Since
the specific heats are different below Tc and overlap above Tc I would expect that for T > Tc

U_{es}(T) = U_{en}(T) + \int_0^{T_c} [C_{es}(T)-C_{en}(T)] dT

where "es" and "en" refer to the superconductive and normal states, respectively.
Hence the integral should vanish for the two quantities to coincide, right?

Now it seems to me that this hardly applies for the curves in fig. 3b, but this could
very well a be graphical problem, like a poor choice of the curves.

The above condition is somehow enforced in the calculations just before eq. (3.60), where,
if I get it right, the author sets

U_{es}(T_c) = U_{en}(T_c)

"since the specific heat remains finite there". I'm not sure I get this argument. The finiteness of the "es" specific heat ensures that the "es" internal energy is continuous, but not that it has a particular value (the same as the "en" internal energy).
So this feature of the specific heat does not seem to me a sufficient reason for equalling
the two internal energies at the critical temperature.
Am I missing something?

Thanks a lot for your help

FPS the equation I'm seeing in my preview of this post are altogether different from what
I've typed. I hope that the submitted version of this post is ok. If this is not the case, placing the mouse pointer on the equations seems to correctly give the equation I've typed, although in latex format.

PPS unfortunately the equations are not displayed correctly... I do not understand what the problem is... I've always used this syntax... I've tried to modify my post, but I can't manage to have the equations display properly.
 
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Zz.
 
Oh, I see...

well, luckily my equations are not very complex. I hope they can be understood from
their latex syntax, which appears correctly when the mouse pointer is placed on the
equation image.

Using a "mixed style" they are:

Ues(T) = Uen(T) + S0Tc (Ces-Cen) dT

(where the big S stands for the integral symbol) and

Ues(Tc) = Uen(Tc)

Franz
 
It's me again...

Actually the first equation in my previous message(s) is not correct. It should be:


Ues(T) = Uen(T) + S0Tc (Ces-Cen) dT - Uen(0) + Ues(0)

(T>Tc) which means that the equality of the two energies does not yield the vanishing of the integral.
So much for my first observation.

I still do not completely understand why Ues(Tc) = Uen(Tc).
 

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