Simple Calculus question, but whaaattt?

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the integration of the function (x+1)/2. The original poster expresses confusion over obtaining two different answers from their integration attempts.

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  • The original poster attempts integration using both u-substitution and direct distribution of the fraction. They question the validity of their results and where a constant might have been overlooked.

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Participants are exploring the implications of constants in integration, with one suggesting that the discrepancy may relate to the constant of integration. Others share personal experiences with similar issues, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is mention of constants in integration and the potential for different forms of the same integral to yield equivalent derivatives, highlighting the nuances of integration in calculus.

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Simple Calculus question, but whaaattt??

Hi, I have a confusing math problem. So I tried to integrate [itex]\frac{x+1}{2}[/itex]. Apparently I got 2 answers.

answer 1. Using u substitution u=x+1, it becomes ∫[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]u du = [itex]\frac{u^2}{4}[/itex] --> [itex]\frac{1}{4}[/itex](x+1)[itex]^{2}[/itex]
which becomes [itex]\frac{x^2+2x+1}{4}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{1}{4}[/itex]x[itex]^{2}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]x+[itex]\frac{1}{4}[/itex]

answer 2. distribute the one half. [itex]\frac{x+1}{2}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]x+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]
so ∫[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]x+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex] dx = [itex]\frac{1}{4}[/itex]x[itex]^{2}[/itex]+[itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]x

sooo, uhm, which one is right? where did the [itex]\frac{1}{4}[/itex] go?
thank you! and no, I'm not trolling, I'm totally serious. I have no idea how it becomes like this.
 
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oh I just remember about the C. Did the 1/4 go there?
 


ya that probably is it the 1/4 is just a constant. If you take the derivative of both of your answers you get the same thing. I remember running into the same thing when I integrated something with logs in it my answer didn't quite match the book and my teacher said they just expanded the log with properties of logs and got rid of the constants. If I were you I would have just puled the 1/2 out at the beginning and then integrated term by term. always pull out what ever you can.
 


You can try to figure it out by doing the integral with limits: [itex]\int_{x_0}^x dx' \frac{x'+1}{2} = \frac{1}{2} \int_{u_0}^u du' u'[/itex]. Now [itex]u_0[/itex] and [itex]x_0[/itex] are related through [itex]u_0 = 1 + x_0[/itex].
 

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