Simple cycloid time calculation problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time it takes for a bead to slide down a cycloid-shaped wire, defined by the parametric equations x = a(θ - sin(θ)) and y = a(cos(θ) - 1). The solution involves applying energy conservation principles, leading to the conclusion that the time to reach the point (πa, -2a) is given by the formula T = π√(a/g). The arc length is calculated using the integral of the derivatives of the parametric equations, and the participant resolves a confusion regarding the relationship between arc length and time.

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Consider a wire bent into the shape of the cycloid

[tex]x = a(\theta - \sin\theta)[/tex]
[tex]y = a(\cos\theta -1)[/tex]

If a bead is released at the origin and slides down the wire without friction, show that [itex]\pi\sqrt{a/g}[/tex] is the time it takes to reach the point [itex](\pi a, -2a)[/tex] at the bottom.<h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> <br /> (See below)<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> <br /> Energy conservation gives<br /> <br /> [tex]\frac{1}{2}mv^{2} = mg(2a)[/tex]<br /> or<br /> [tex]v^{2} = 4ga[/tex]<br /> <br /> For the point at the bottom, [itex]\theta = \pi[/itex]. So, the arc length is<br /> <br /> [tex]s = \int_{0}^{\theta}\sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{d\theta}\right)^{2} + \left(\frac{dy}{d\theta}\right)^{2}}d\theta[/tex]<br /> <br /> [tex]v = \frac{ds}{dt}[/tex]<br /> <br /> How do I get rid of the [tex]d\theta/dt[/tex]? I know I'm missing something here...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />[/itex][/itex]
 
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