Simple harmonic motion problem involving matrices

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two equal masses connected by springs, with each mass also connected to a wall via additional springs. The objective is to derive the equations of motion in matrix form, utilizing concepts from simple harmonic motion and Hooke's law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correctness of the equations of motion derived for each mass, questioning the inclusion of forces from all springs involved. There is a focus on ensuring that all relevant forces are accounted for in the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the initial attempts and suggesting the need for a more comprehensive approach that includes all springs. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the setup through diagrams and free body diagrams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the number of springs and their contributions to the forces acting on each mass. The original poster's diagram is referenced, indicating that visual representation may be crucial for understanding the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


2 equal masses are joined together by a spring of stiffness k. each of the masses is then connected to a wall with an identical spring. derive the equations of motion in matrix form. (a diagam has 2 masses with x1 on top of the first mass and x2 on top of the second.)


Homework Equations


hooke's law: F = kx


The Attempt at a Solution


mass 1:

mx1'' = F(x2 - x1) - Fx1
mx2'' = Fx2 - F(x2 - x1)

^ are these correct?
 
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Mass one looks good but mass two is off. What happened to your third spring ?
 
Also, draw yourself a free body diagram.
 
CFDFEAGURU said:
Mass one looks good but mass two is off. What happened to your third spring ?

CFDFEAGURU said:
Also, draw yourself a free body diagram.

i did. there are only 2 displacements (x1 and x2), right? the extension of the third spring is not kx2?
 
There are only two equations, but you need to include the third spring. If the masses are going to move springs 1,2, and 3 have to move with them.
 
CFDFEAGURU said:
There are only two equations, but you need to include the third spring. If the masses are going to move springs 1,2, and 3 have to move with them.

but each mass is connected to 2 springs. therefore each equation should only have 2 terms. the only mistake i can see with the second equation is that Fx2 (force from the THIRD spring) should be negative. oh, and sorry if i haven't been clear enough -- the diagram goes like this:

[wall] [spring] [mass 1] [spring] [mass 2] [spring] [wall]
 
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Mass one depends upon springs 1 and 2. Mass two depends on springs 2 and 3. Rewrite your equations and redraw your FOB.
 

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