Simple harmonic motion solved for time

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle of mass 0.50 kg undergoing simple harmonic motion along the x-axis, with specified parameters such as amplitude, period, initial displacement, and phase constant. The objective is to determine the time at which the particle first reaches a specific position of +0.3 m.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the rearrangement of the equation for time and express confusion regarding the use of displacement values, particularly questioning the calculation leading to an arccos error when using 0.6 m.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of using the correct position value (0.3 m) and clarify the distinction between displacement and position in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the correct interpretation of the variables involved and the necessity of using radians for calculations. There is a recognition of the confusion surrounding the displacement values and the mathematical errors encountered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the initial displacement of -0.3 m and the implications for calculating the time to reach 0.3 m, raising questions about the definitions and assumptions used in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



A particle of mass 0.50 kg performs simple harmonic motion along the x-axis with amplitude 0.55m and period 4.3 seconds. The initial displacement of the particle is -0.30 m and it is traveling in the positive x-direction. The phase constant of the motion (Φ) = -2.15 rad. Find the time at which the particle first reaches x = +0.3m.
Relevant equations:

Homework Equations



x(t) = Acos(ωt + Φ)
f = 1/T = 0.2326 Hz
ω = 2πf = 1.4612 rad/s

The Attempt at a Solution



Rearrange for t:
t = [arccos(x/A) - Φ]/ω
t = [arccos(0.6/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
This is giving me a maths error because arccos(x > 1) does't exist, but 0.6m is the total displacement.
Even when I use 0.3 as my measurement for x I get a ridiculous value for t:

t = [arccos(0.3/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
t = 40.4423 s

Not sure where I'm going wrong. Any help would be great!
 
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MaxBicknell said:
A particle of mass 0.50 kg performs simple harmonic motion along the x-axis with amplitude 0.55m and period 4.3 seconds. The initial displacement of the particle is -0.30 m and it is traveling in the positive x-direction. The phase constant of the motion (Φ) = -2.15 rad. Find the time at which the particle first reaches x = +0.3m.
Relevant equations:

x(t) = Acos(ωt + Φ)
f = 1/T = 0.2326 Hz
ω = 2πf = 1.4612 rad/s​

My attempt:

Rearrange for t:
t = [arccos(x/A) - Φ]/ω
t = [arccos(0.6/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
This is giving me a maths error because arccos(x > 1) does't exist, but 0.6m is the total displacement.
Even when I use 0.3 as my measurement for x I get a ridiculous value for t:

t = [arccos(0.3/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
t = 40.4423 s​

Not sure where I'm going wrong. Any help would be great!
Where did the 0.6 for the displacement come from? The initial displacement was given as -0.3 m.
 
ehild said:
Where did the 0.6 for the displacement come from? The initial displacement was given as -0.3 m.

If the initial displacement is -0.3m and I am measuring the time to get to 0.3m, should x not be 0.6m?
 
MaxBicknell said:

Homework Statement



A particle of mass 0.50 kg performs simple harmonic motion along the x-axis with amplitude 0.55m and period 4.3 seconds. The initial displacement of the particle is -0.30 m and it is traveling in the positive x-direction. The phase constant of the motion (Φ) = -2.15 rad. Find the time at which the particle first reaches x = +0.3m.
Relevant equations:

Homework Equations


[/B]
x(t) = Acos(ωt + Φ)​
f = 1/T = 0.2326 Hz
ω = 2πf = 1.4612 rad/s

The Attempt at a Solution



Rearrange for t:
t = [arccos(x/A) - Φ]/ω
t = [arccos(0.6/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
This is giving me a maths error because arccos(x > 1) does't exist, but 0.6m is the total displacement.
Even when I use 0.3 as my measurement for x I get a ridiculous value for t:

t = [arccos(0.3/0.55) + 2.15]/1.4612
t = 40.4423 s​

Not sure where I'm going wrong. Any help would be great!
A) You *have* to use x=0.3 meter. This equation gives the position as a function of time, it does not give a displacement as function of time.

B) Your calculator must be un radians to get the correct inverse cos.
 
nrqed said:
A) You *have* to use x=0.3 meter. This equation gives the position as a function of time, it does not give a displacement as function of time.

B) Your calculator must be un radians to get the correct inverse cos.
Many thanks, turns out I'm just an idiot who doesn't know how to work a calculator.
 
MaxBicknell said:
If the initial displacement is -0.3m and I am measuring the time to get to 0.3m, should x not be 0.6m?
No. x is displacement with respect to the origin. Better to refer it as 'position'. You know that x=Acos(wt+Φ)=0.3. w, A, and Φ are given, you can find t, but yes, set the calculator to RAD.
 

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