Simple integration by parts question

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The problem involves integration by parts, specifically focusing on determining the function v when given dv in the context of an integral. The subject area is calculus, particularly the application of integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the choice of u and dv, questioning how to derive v from dv. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between derivatives and integrals, with some participants suggesting checking derivatives to validate their answers.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on the derivative rules and integration techniques, while others express confusion and seek further clarification.

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There is a mention of the original poster's struggle to fully understand the advice given, indicating a possible gap in foundational knowledge regarding integration and differentiation rules.

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Hello,
The problem I'm working on is X225x. I know you have u = x2 and du = 2x however if dv= 25x then what is v? I know if dv were say e2x than v would be 1/2e2x but for this problem would v simply be 1/5*25x? Thank you
 
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Well, there is a simple way to check if v would equal 1/5*2^5x [ it doesn't by the way] and that is take its derivitve.

when taking the deriv. of a exponential, we use this formula:

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Try using that and the chain rule to come up with a better answer
 
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So going by that rule v = 25xln(2) right?
 
Nope. If v=2^{5x}ln5, then dv=2^{5x}(ln5)^{2}dx. Then v has to be a function so that if you take the derivative, that ln5 cancels out.
 
well if say I made u 25x would du = 5(2)4xdx? Thank you.
 
protivakid said:
well if say I made u 25x would du = 5(2)4xdx? Thank you.

Anyone?
 
There is not much point in posting here if you are not going to pay attention to the responses. You were told that the derivative of cx is ln(c) cx. If u= 25x, then, using the chain rule, du= ln(2)25x(5x)'= ln(2)x 25x.

You might be better of with your initial idea of making dv= 25x. Since the derivative of cx is ln(c) cx, the anti-derivative of ln(c) cx is, of course, cx and, since ln(c) is just a number, the anti-derivative of cx is cx/ln(c). If dv= 25x then v= 25x/(5ln(2))+ C.
 
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I did get the answer and to the last poster, it's not that I am not reading the advice, it's that I don't completely understand it so I take a shot at what i think it is based on what I got from the advice and then see if I understand it correctly or if I still need help. Thank you all though.
 

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