Simple Partial Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation (PDE) related to an electromagnetism problem. The specific equation presented is \(\frac{d^2V}{dr^2}=-\frac{2}{r}\frac{dV}{dr}\), with participants exploring methods to approach the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the possibility of separating variables and treating the PDE as an ordinary differential equation (ODE). There is an exploration of the relationship between the variables and attempts to express the solution in terms of functions of independent variables.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the nature of the solution. Some participants have provided insights into the structure of the equation and suggested methods for solving it, while others express uncertainty about their understanding and the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the notation used in the PDE, specifically the use of 'd' versus 'del'. Additionally, participants note the importance of considering arbitrary constants during integration, indicating a focus on the mathematical rigor required in the solution process.

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Homework Statement


This is actually an electromagnetism problem but all the physics is done, I just don't remember how to solve the PDE:
[itex]\frac{d^2V}{dr^2}=-\frac{2}{r}\frac{dV}{dr}[/itex]
The d's should be del's, just don't know how to do that...

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Not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Don't know where to start.
 
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There are no other independent variables in the problem besides r. Assume V can be written as a product of functions of all the independent variables. I.e. it's separable. V(r)=u(r)*v(theta)*w(phi). The treat it as an ODE. Do you remember those? I would try putting dV/dr=u(r) and separating variables.
 
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Ahh I think that's just what I needed. So

[itex]V_{rr}=-k^2u(r)[/itex] where k=sqrt{2/r}
[itex]u(r)=Ae^{ikr}+Be^{-ikr}[/itex]
[itex]V(r)=\frac{-iA}{k}e^{ikr}+\frac{iB}{k}e^{-ikr}[/itex]
then sub in for k

Is that correct?
 
Jd0g33 said:
Ahh I think that's just what I needed. So

[itex]V_{rr}=-k^2u(r)[/itex] where k=sqrt{2/r}
[itex]u(r)=Ae^{ikr}+Be^{-ikr}[/itex]
[itex]V(r)=\frac{-iA}{k}e^{ikr}+\frac{iB}{k}e^{-ikr}[/itex]
then sub in for k

Is that correct?

Not really. If u(r)=dV/dr then the equation becomes du/dr=(-2/r)u. Doesn't it? Solve that.
 
Ahh, I'm an idiot. [itex]u=r^{-2}[/itex]

Thanks Dick!
 
Jd0g33 said:
Ahh, I'm an idiot. [itex]u=r^{-2}[/itex]

Thanks Dick!

You're welcome but don't forget the arbitrary constant when you integrate.
 
Jd0g33 said:

Homework Statement


This is actually an electromagnetism problem but all the physics is done, I just don't remember how to solve the PDE:
[itex]\frac{d^2V}{dr^2}=-\frac{2}{r}\frac{dV}{dr}[/itex]
The d's should be del's, just don't know how to do that...

Homework Equations



Not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Don't know where to start.

Note that
[tex]\frac{d}{dr}\left( r^k \frac{dF(r)}{dr} \right) = r^k \frac{d^2F(r)}{dr^2}+ k r^{k-1} \frac{dF(r)}{dr}[/tex]
Can you see how that fact helps?
 

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