Simple pulley problem with weights

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The problem involves two 0.25 kg blocks connected by a thread over a frictionless pulley, with a third block weighing 0.20 kg placed on one of the blocks. The question seeks to determine the acceleration of the 0.20 kg block when the system is disrupted from equilibrium.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of adding the third block and question the assumption that it would simply accelerate at 9.8 m/s². There is exploration of using Newton's laws and the equation F=ma to analyze the forces acting on the blocks.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, suggesting methods to apply Newton's laws and discussing how to set up the equations for the forces acting on each mass. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of the equations and the proper labeling of variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the forces acting on the blocks and the need to treat the scenario as a standard pulley problem, indicating that assumptions about equilibrium must be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Two 0.25 kg blocks are connected by a thread that passes over a frictionless pulley. The thread has no mass, and no friction. The two blocks are in balance. If a third block that weighs 0.20 kg is put on one of the blocks, then what is the acceleration of the 0.20 kg block?


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I was thinking that since the 0.20 kg block just disrupts the equilibrium of the 0.25 kg blocks, then wouldn't the 0.20kg block just accelerate as if it were just dropped, at 9.8 m/s^2?? That seems like too obvious of an answer though...
 
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Something accelerates at 9.8 m/s^2 only if there are no forces on it other than gravity--but that's not the case here, since it's in contact with another block.

How would you figure out the acceleration using Newton's laws?
 
Well.. I could try using F=ma, and then solve for acceleration. But if I were to use this equation, how would I figure out what F was?
 
Why not treat it as a standard pulley problem? Apply F=ma to both sides, then combine the equations. What forces are acting on each mass?
 
Ok, so how about this. If we do T-m1g=ma, and then T-m2g=-ma, then combine both equations and solve for a?
 
djokoman95 said:
Ok, so how about this. If we do T-m1g=ma, and then T-m2g=-ma, then combine both equations and solve for a?
Great! But make sure that the masses in the 'ma' terms have the proper subscripts also. For example: T - m1g = m1a.
 
Oh yes, that's important. Thanks for your help!
 

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