Proving Vector Space Properties for a Set of Scalar Multiples of [1,3,2] in R3

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The problem involves proving that the set of all scalar multiples of the vector [1,3,2] in R3 forms a vector space under the usual operations of vector addition and scalar multiplication. Participants are navigating the requirements of formal proof in the context of an introductory course in mathematics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to demonstrate closure under addition and scalar multiplication, as well as the other properties required for a vector space. There are attempts to clarify the notation used and the implications of the properties being proven.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to express closure under addition and scalar multiplication, while others have raised questions about the clarity of notation and the requirements of the proof. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the implications of being in R3 and the nature of the operations involved.

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Participants mention the transition to proof-based mathematics and express uncertainty about the formal requirements of the proof, including whether additional operations need to be addressed. There is also a focus on ensuring that the results of operations remain within the defined set of scalar multiples.

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Homework Statement



Prove that the set of all scalar multiples of the vector [1,3,2] in R3 forms a vector space with th usual operations on 3-vectors.

Homework Equations



I am struggling to get anywhere on with this on paper. I know intuitively it and since its an intro course its a elementary problem, but am not getting to an actual proof. Of note: I am in transition to proofs in an undergraduate math degree...hence the struggle (I am reading some books on this as well).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have decent/real written attempt here.

I assume that I need to prove scalar multiplication as well as addition are closed, and then of course the other eight properties. To do so would I just take
Scalar = k
k[1,2,3] = [k, 3k, 2k]
and any general vector in R3 [a,b,c] + [1,3,2] = [a + 1, b + 3, c + 3]

Then go on to the other properties...or am I way off? I feel like this is not even close to correct or sufficient, and obviously not formal enough.

Thanks in advance!
 
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hedgie said:

Homework Statement



Prove that the set of all scalar multiples of the vector [1,3,2] in R3 forms a vector space with th usual operations on 3-vectors.


Homework Equations



I am struggling to get anywhere on with this on paper. I know intuitively it and since its an intro course its a elementary problem, but am not getting to an actual proof. Of note: I am in transition to proofs in an undergraduate math degree...hence the struggle (I am reading some books on this as well).

The Attempt at a Solution



I have decent/real written attempt here.

I assume that I need to prove scalar multiplication as well as addition are closed, and then of course the other eight properties. To do so would I just take
Scalar = k
k[1,2,3] = [k, 3k, 2k]
and any general vector in R3 [a,b,c] + [1,3,2] = [a + 1, b + 3, c + 3]
Your general vector will look like k<1, 3, 2>.

To add two vectors that belong to this set, each of them has to be a scalar multiple of <1, 3, 2>. For example, a<1, 3, 2> and b<1, 3, 2>.
hedgie said:
Then go on to the other properties...or am I way off? I feel like this is not even close to correct or sufficient, and obviously not formal enough.

Thanks in advance!
It sounds like you have the basic idea.
 
[a + 1, b + 3, c + 3]

You'll probably catch this, but the c + 3 should really be a c + 2. A better way to write closure under addition would be the way Mark44 wrote it.

Also, I recommend adding a confirmation statement such as "Closure under addition holds!" at the end of every specific property proof.
 
Thank you both! First, I meant to say "I don't have a decent/real written attempt here." I edited it but it must not have saved the 'don't' after the edit. Thanks dmoc I didn't notice the careless typo on the vector and thanks for the recommendation on writing that closure holds when I believe I have proven it.

So the would this be proper proof for closure under addition:
a<1,3,2> + b<1,3,2> = <a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2>
And this proves closure under addition holds.

As well what I typed for the scalar portion was OK?

Also am I missing something when it asks "in R3 forms a vector space with the usual operations on 3-vectors."? Do I have to prove something with the three basic row operations as well? Or is it referring to vectors with three variables?

I understand graphically, I believe, I am proving the vector <1,3,2> goes through the origin in either direction for any scalar...is that the proper way to think of it?

Thanks!
 
For closure under addition, I would suggest

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Let a<1,3,2>, b<1,3,2> \in R3,

a<1,3,2> + b<1,3,2> = <a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2>

<a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2> \in R3

Closure under addition holds.

---------------------------

I don't know how strict your teacher/TA/grader will grade your proofs. Mine encouraged me to explicitly say that something is in the set of R3. By doing that, we then acknowledge that the end result <a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2> is in the set R3. This is what we're trying to prove, anyway.


Also am I missing something when it asks "in R3 forms a vector space with the usual operations on 3-vectors."? Do I have to prove something with the three basic row operations as well? Or is it referring to vectors with three variables?

This should just refer to vectors with 3 variables (or "elements") which are going to be in R^3. You shouldn't have to mention anything related to the 3 row operations here.
 
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hedgie said:
Thank you both! First, I meant to say "I don't have a decent/real written attempt here." I edited it but it must not have saved the 'don't' after the edit. Thanks dmoc I didn't notice the careless typo on the vector and thanks for the recommendation on writing that closure holds when I believe I have proven it.

So the would this be proper proof for closure under addition:
a<1,3,2> + b<1,3,2> = <a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2>
And this proves closure under addition holds.
To make it crystal clear that the sum of two vectors is also in the set, continue another step, like so.
a<1,3,2> + b<1,3,2> = <a1+b1, a3+b3, a2+b2> = (a + b)<1, 3, 2>.

Also, the notation a1, b1, etc. might not be recognized as meaning a*1, b*1. We normally write expressions like 2x, 3b, and so on with the constant being written first, rather than as x2 or b3.

hedgie said:
As well what I typed for the scalar portion was OK?

Also am I missing something when it asks "in R3 forms a vector space with the usual operations on 3-vectors."? Do I have to prove something with the three basic row operations as well? Or is it referring to vectors with three variables?

I understand graphically, I believe, I am proving the vector <1,3,2> goes through the origin in either direction for any scalar...is that the proper way to think of it?

Thanks!
 
Thank you both for your time and help. It is greatly appreciated.

That was sloppy on my part to write it as 1a, etc... Thanks for pointing it out. Thanks also for the pointing out I should clarify it is in the set.

Thanks dmoc for your input on noting that I should note that it is in R^3.

Thanks again. This forum is terrific.
 

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