Simplify cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)....cos(999a) if a=(2pi)/1999

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the product of cosines, specifically cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)...cos(999a) where a=(2pi)/1999. Participants explore various approaches to tackle this problem, including algebraic manipulations and polynomial roots.

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  • One participant suggests grouping terms in pairs, leading to a formulation involving cos(100a) and others, but expresses uncertainty on how to proceed further.
  • Another participant introduces a method using Chebyshev's formula for multiple angle cosines, stating that the product of cosines corresponds to the roots of a polynomial and discusses the implications of the polynomial's structure.
  • Some participants seek clarification on the reasoning behind the product of the roots being equal to 1/2^{2n} and how this leads to the conclusion about the product of cosines.
  • A different approach is presented that involves sine functions and identities, leading to a product that includes (-1)^t, where t is related to the parity of n.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the simplification of the product of cosines. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, with some participants seeking clarification on specific steps and reasoning.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of the product of cosines and the implications of the polynomial roots. The discussion includes various mathematical identities and properties that are not fully resolved.

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Simplify cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)...cos(999a) if a=(2pi)/1999

I don't see any way to approach this problem but my attempt is to group cos(a).cos(999a), then cos(2a).cos(998a), and so on.
Then I get 500 pairs where the first two pairs are 1/2[cos(100a)+cos(998a)] and 1/2[cos(100a)+cos(996a)], and etc.
Next, I see that cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)...cos(999a)= 1/2^500[[cos(100a)+cos(998a)][cos(100a)+cos(996a)][cos(100a)+cos(994a)][...].
Now, I'm stuck. I don't know how to proceed.
Any help, please?
 
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anemone said:
Simplify cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)...cos(999a) if a=(2pi)/1999

I don't see any way to approach this problem but my attempt is to group cos(a).cos(999a), then cos(2a).cos(998a), and so on.
Then I get 500 pairs where the first two pairs are 1/2[cos(100a)+cos(998a)] and 1/2[cos(100a)+cos(996a)], and etc.
Next, I see that cos(a)cos(2a)cos(3a)...cos(999a)= 1/2^500[[cos(100a)+cos(998a)][cos(100a)+cos(996a)][cos(100a)+cos(994a)][...].
Now, I'm stuck. I don't know how to proceed.
Any help, please?
(This problem cropped up in the dying days of the Math Help Forum. I'll have to reconstruct an outline of the solution.)

Here's how to compute the product $\displaystyle \prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1} = \cos a\cos2a\cdots\cos na$, where $a = \tfrac{2\pi}{2n+1}.$

To start with, notice that the numbers $\theta = \tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\ (0\leq k\leq 2n)$ are the solutions of the equation $\cos(2n+1)\theta = 1.$ Chebyshev's formula for multiple angle cosines says that $\cos(2n+1)\theta$ is a polynomial of degree $2n+1$ in $\cos\theta$, of the form $$\cos(2n+1)\theta = 2^{2n}\cos^{2n+1}\theta + \ldots \pm(2n+1)\cos\theta.$$ Put $x = \cos\theta$ to see that numbers $\cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\ (0\leq k\leq 2n)$ are the solutions of the equation $$2^{2n}x^{2n+1} + \ldots \pm(2n+1)x - 1 = 0.\quad(*)$$ One of these solutions (corresponding to $k=0$) is $x=1$. The other roots come in pairs, because of the fact that $\cos\varphi = \cos(2\pi-\varphi).$ Thus the roots of $(*)$ are $x=1$ (occurring once), together with the numbers $\cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\ (1\leq k\leq n)$ (occurring twice each). But the product of the roots of $(*)$ is $1/2^{2n}.$ It follows that $\displaystyle \prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1} = \pm\frac1{2^n}.$

The final part of the calculation is to decide whether to take the plus or the minus sign in that formula. Notice that $\cos\theta$ is positive if $0\leq\theta<\pi/2$, and negative if $\pi/2<\theta\leq\pi$. In the above product, roughly the first half of the terms will be positive and the second half will be negative. For small values of n, you can check that the sign is given as in this table: $$\begin{array}{c|c|c|c|c|c|c|c}n&1&2&3&4&5&6&7\\ \hline \text{sign}&-&-&+&+&-&-&+ \end{array}$$ I'll leave you to work out what it should be for $n=999.$
 
Thanks, Opalg!

You approach is so easy to follow and I like it very much.
But it's also going uphill to the point where I don't understand why the following is true.:confused:

But the product of the roots of $(*)$ is $1/2^{2n}.$ It follows that $\displaystyle \prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1} = \pm\frac1{2^n}.$

Could you please elaborate on that one?
Thanks again.
 
anemone said:
I don't understand why the following is true.:confused:

Opalg said:
But the product of the roots of $(*)$ is $1/2^{2n}.$ It follows that $\displaystyle \prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1} = \pm\frac1{2^n}.$
Could you please elaborate on that one?
The roots of $(*)$ are $\cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\ (1\leq k\leq n)$ (occurring twice each), together with 1. So their product is $\displaystyle \Bigl(\prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\Bigr)^{\!\!\!2}.$ But the product of the roots of a polynomial of odd degree is the negative of the constant term divided by the coefficient of the leading term. Therefore $\displaystyle \Bigl(\prod_{k=1}^n \cos\tfrac{2k\pi}{2n+1}\Bigr)^{\!\!\!2} = \frac1{2^{2n}}.$ Now you just have to take the square root of both sides.
 
With the awesome explanation, there's no reason to say that I don't understand!:D
BIG thanks to you, Opalg!
Also, big thanks to this site!:cool:
 
Here's what I tried:

From $\displaystyle(2n+1-(2k-1))a=(2n+1-(2k-1))\frac{2\pi}{2n+1}=2\pi-(2k-1)\frac{2\pi}{2n+1}=2\pi-(2k-1)a$, it follows that $\sin{(2n+1-(2k-1))a}=\sin(-(2k-1)a)=-\sin{(2k-1)a}$. So we simply have, $\displaystyle\frac{\sin{(2n+1-(2k-1))a}}{{\sin(2k-1)a}}=-1$(*).The identity $\sin(2\alpha)=2\sin(\alpha)\cos(\alpha)$, or $\displaystyle \cos(\alpha)=\frac{1}{2}\frac{\sin(2\alpha)}{\sin(\alpha)}$ gives:\[\prod_{1\leq k\leq n}\cos(ka)=\prod_{1\leq k\leq n}\frac{1}{2}\frac{\sin(2ka)}{\sin(ka)}=\frac{1}{2^n}\prod_{1\leq k\leq n}\frac{\sin(2ka)}{\sin(ka)}=\frac{\sin(2a)}{\sin(1a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(4a)}{\sin(2a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(6a)}{\sin(3a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(8a)}{\sin(4a)}\cdots\frac{\sin(2na)}{\sin(na)},\]where the RHS product $A_n$ (without $\displaystyle\frac{1}{2^n}$) after cancellation is something like (for $n=6$)$\displaystyle A_6=\frac{\sin(2a)}{\sin(1a)}\cdot \frac{\sin(4a)}{\sin(2a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(6a)}{\sin(3a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(8a)}{\sin(4a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(10a)}{\sin(5a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(12a)}{\sin(6a)}= \frac{1}{\sin(1a)} \cdot\frac{1}{1}\cdot\frac{1}{\sin(3a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(8a)}{1}\cdot\frac{\sin(10a)}{\sin(5a)} \cdot\frac{\sin(12a)}{1}=\frac{\sin(8a)}{\sin(1a)}\cdot\frac{\sin(10a)}{\sin(3a)} \frac{\sin(12a)}{\sin(5a)}$.Rearanging the numerator, we get: \[A_n=\displaystyle \frac{\sin(2na)}{\sin(1a)}\cdot\frac{\sin((2n-2)a)}{\sin(3a)}\cdot\frac{\sin((2n-4)a)}{\sin(5a)}\cdots=\frac{\sin{(2n+1-1)a}}{{sin1a}}\cdot\frac{\sin{(2n+1-3)a}}{{\sin3a}}\cdots\frac{\sin{(2n+1-(2t-1))a}}{{\sin(2t-1)a}}=\prod_{1\leq k\leq t}\frac{\sin{(2n+1-(2k-1))a}}{{\sin(2k-1)a}},\] where (by inspection) $t=\lfloor (n+1)/2\rfloor$.But then from (*), we immediately find that $A_n=\prod_{1\leq k\leq t}(-1)=(-1)^t$. Finally, $\displaystyle\prod_{1\leq k\leq n}\cos(ka)=\frac{1}{2^n}A_n=\frac{1}{2^n}(-1)^t$.Note: Since $\frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ and $t$ have the same parity, the answer may be written as: $\displaystyle\prod_{1\leq k\leq n}\cos(ka)=\frac{(-1)^{\frac{n(n+1)}{2}}}{2^n}$.

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