Simplifying Complicated Fractions for Easier Calculus Differentiation

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The discussion revolves around the process of simplifying complicated fractions to facilitate easier differentiation in calculus. Participants explore methods for breaking down specific rational expressions, including (3x^2+2x+1)/[(x+2)(x^2+x+1)] and (x^4+1)/(x^3+1), while addressing the implications of the degrees of the numerator and denominator.

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  • One participant suggests using partial fraction decomposition for (3x^2+2x+1)/[(x+2)(x^2+x+1)], proposing a form involving constants A, B, and C.
  • Another participant notes that the numerator's degree is lower than the denominator's and discusses the method of equating coefficients to solve for A, B, and C.
  • For (x^4+1)/(x^3+1), a participant mentions using long division to simplify the expression before applying partial fraction decomposition.
  • One participant questions the factorization of x^3+1, suggesting it may be in lowest terms, while another corrects this by stating it can be factored as (x+1)(x^2-x+1).
  • There is a discussion about the general factorization of x^n+1, with participants noting differences based on whether n is even or odd.

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Participants express differing views on the factorization of x^3+1 and whether the expression is already in its simplest form. There is no consensus on the best approach to simplifying the fractions for differentiation.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the factorization of cubic polynomials and the implications for simplification methods. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with algebraic techniques relevant to calculus.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying calculus, particularly those seeking to understand methods of simplifying rational expressions for differentiation.

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Hello folks, I am studying Calculus 1 by S. Tohmpson 'Calculus made easy'.
On p. 130 I am stuck with few quizes which require to split into fractions:

(3x^2+2x+1)/[(x+2)(x^2+x+1)]
and
(x^4+1)/(x^3+1)

It asks to break each expression into sum of more simple fractions so following it differentiation would be much simpler.
Please let me know if you know how to do it.
 
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ggolub said:
Hello folks, I am studying Calculus 1 by S. Tohmpson 'Calculus made easy'.
On p. 130 I am stuck with few quizes which require to split into fractions:

(3x^2+2x+1)/[(x+2)(x^2+x+1)]
Since the denominator has higher degree than the numerator and x^2+ x+ 1 cannot be factored in terms of real numbers, this can be written
[tex]\frac{A}{x+ 2}+ \frac{Bx+ C}{x^2+ x+ 1}[/tex]
On method of doing that is write
[tex]\frac{3x^2+ 2x+ 1}{(x+1)(x^2+ x+ 1)}= \frac{A}{x+ 2}+ \frac{Bx+ C}{x^2+ x+ 1}[/tex]
multiply both sides by [itex](x+1)(x^2+ x+ 1)[/itex] to eliminate the fractions:
[tex]3x^2+ 2x+ 1= A(x^2+ x+ 1)+ (Bx+ C)(x+ 2)[/itex]<br /> Since this is to be true for all x, you can let x be any 3 numbers you want to get 3 equations to solve for A, B,a nd C. For example x=-2 is especialy nice since then you get [tex]3(-2)^2+ 2(-2)+ 1= 12- 4+ 1= 9= A((-2)^2+ (-2)+ 1)= 3A[/tex]<br /> But taking x= 0 gives<br /> [tex]1= A+ 2C[/tex] <br /> and x= 1 gives<br /> [tex]6= 3A+ 3B+ 3C[/tex]<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> and<br /> (x^4+1)/(x^3+1) </div> </div> </blockquote>Here the numerator has higher degree than the denominator so the first thing you want to do is use "long division". [itex]x^3+ 1[/itex] divides into [itex]x^4+ 1[/itex] x times with -x+ 1 as remainder: <br /> [tex]\frac{x^4+ 1}{x^3+ 1}= x+ \frac{1- x}{x^3+ 1}= x+ \frac{1- x}{(x- 1)(x^2+ x+ 1)}[/tex]<br /> Now find A, B, and C so that <br /> [tex]\frac{1- x}{x^2+ x+ 1}= \frac{A}{x-1}+ \frac{B}{x^2+ x+ 1}[/tex].<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It asks to break each expression into sum of more simple fractions so following it differentiation would be much simpler.<br /> Please let me know if you know how to do it. </div> </div> </blockquote> Since this has nothing to do with "Differential Equations", I am moving it to "Calculus and Analysis".[/tex]
 
Thank you so much!
Can you please refer me the book or name of topic which I can use to find this material. I want to understand the method behind it.
 
[tex](x-1)(x^{2}+x+1) = x^{3} - 1[/tex], not [tex]x^{3} + 1[/tex].

Cubics are way beyond my ability to factor, but just looking at it, but I'm pretty sure [tex]x^{3} + 1[/tex] is in lowest terms. In that case, wouldn't we leave the equation in the form it is already in? Or am I missing something?
 
You are right. [itex](x- 1)(x^2+ x+ 1)= x^3- 1[/itex].

What I meant to say was [itex]x^3+ 1= (x+ 1)(x^2- x+ 1)[/itex]

[itex]x^n+ 1[/itex] cannot be factored (in terms of real numbers) if n is even but if n is odd, [itex]x^n+ 1= (x- 1)(x^{n-1}- x^{n-2}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot- x+ 1)[/itex].
 

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