Undergrad Simplifying this absolute value

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The discussion centers on the expression |nr^n|^{1/n} and whether the exponent can be moved inside the absolute value. It is established that while this is permissible for positive integral exponents, the case with a rational exponent requires further scrutiny. Testing with specific values, such as r = 1 and n = -2, reveals that the equality does not hold in general. The consensus indicates that if both n and r are positive, the absolute value can be disregarded, but complications arise when r is not positive. Ultimately, the ability to simplify the expression depends on the signs of n and r.
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I have the expression ##|nr^n|^{1/n}##. A quick question is whether I can allow the exponent to go inside of the absolute value. I know that if it were an positive integral exponent then because of the multiplicativity of the absolute value function that would be allowed. But I'm not sure what I'm allowed to do in the case of this rational exponent...
 
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In the real numbers that works.
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:
whether I can allow the exponent to go inside of the absolute value.

Are you asking whether ##|n r^n|^{1/n} = | (n r^n)^{1/n}| ## ?

Try ##r = 1,\ n = -2##.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
Are you asking whether ##|n r^n|^{1/n} = | (n r^n)^{1/n}| ## ?

Try ##r = 1,\ n = -2##.
So it's not generally true then? What if ##n## is positive?
 
If n and r are both positive then absolute value can be ignored.
 
mathman said:
If n and r are both positive then absolute value can be ignored.
Well ##n## is positive while ##r## is not necessarily positive.
 
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