Sketching Field Lines of f(r)r: A Guiding Intuition

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The discussion focuses on sketching the field lines of the scalar function f(r) multiplied by the position vector r, represented as f(r)r. Key equations include the divergence and curl of the vector field, with the divergence calculated as Div = f(r) + rf'(r) and the curl determined to be zero. The participants emphasize the importance of using spherical coordinates to simplify the analysis, leading to insights about the behavior of the field lines based on the positivity or negativity of f(r). The conclusion is that sketching should incorporate all three cases of divergence: positive, negative, and zero.

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1. The problem statement, all variables and givenknown data
Let r be a position vector from the origin (r=xi+yj+zk), whose magnitude is r, and let f(r) be a scalar function of r. Sketch the field lines of f(r)r

Homework Equations


1 \nablax(\nabla\Psi)=0
2 \nabla.(\nablaxv)=0
3 \nablax(\nablaxv)=\nabla(\nabla.v)-\nabla\^{}2v
4 \nabla.(\Psiv)=\Psi\nabla.v+v.\nabla\Psi

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I can't get started on this question. I have no idea how you can draw a sketch of the field lines when the scalar function is unknown. My intuition says you should be able to use some of those identities but I need a push in the right direction. I hope someone can give me that.
 
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More relevant equations (the site was crashing when I tried to put them all into one post):
5 \nablax(\Psiv)=\Psi\nablaxv+(\nabla\Psi)xv
6 \nabla.(v.w)=w.(\nablaxv)-v.(\nablaxw)
7 \nablax(vxw)=v(\nabla.w)-w(\nabla.v)+(w.\nabla)v-(v.\nabla)w
 
Why not start by computing the divergence and curl of f(r)r...
 
Ok, I did that using the correct formulae.
Div:
3f(r)+x\partialf(r)/\partialx+y\partialf(r)/\partialy+z\partialf(r)/\partialz
Curl:
(z\partialf(r)/\partialy-y\partialf(r)/\partialz)i+(x\partialf(r)/\partialz-z\partialf(r)/\partialx)j+(y\partialf(r)/\partialx-x\partialf(r)/\partialy)k

I really can't see how that helps since I don't know f(r), and f(r) could be positive or negative. I know that the divergence of a vector field is the (flux of an infinitessimal box/unit volume) placed at a point in the field but I don't know how that helps. I don't know what curl is exactly so I don't know how that helps me visualise the field.
 
Yuck!...since f is a function only of r, use spherical coordinates to find the div and curl instead...remember, \frac{\partial f(r)}{\partial{r}}=f'(r)
 
When I switch to spherical polars, r becomes r=r\widehat{r} and grad changes appropriately.
For the div I get:
Div = f(r) + rf'(r)
and for the curl I get zero.
I still can't see what this means. The div could be positive or negative depending on the actual function.
 
The curl is zero, which tells you that the field lines don't 'rotate'...You are correct that Div (f(r)r) can be pos/neg or zero, so why not sketch and label all 3 cases?
 
Ok I see. Thanks very much for your consistent help.
 

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