Sketching the Periodic Extension of x(t) for y(t) with Ramp and Step Functions

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The discussion revolves around the sketching of the periodic extension of the signal y(t), derived from the signal x(t) defined as x(t) = r(t) u(2-t), where r(t) is the ramp function and u(t) is the step function. Participants are attempting to identify errors in their sketches and understand the correct approach to sketching y(t) with a period of 5.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their sketch of y(t) but believes it is incorrect compared to a tutorial answer.
  • Another participant suggests sketching both r(t) and u(2-t) together to identify errors in the initial sketch.
  • A participant indicates that the multiplication of the ramp function and the step function must be performed correctly to avoid flat sections in the sketch.
  • Clarifications are provided regarding how the step function affects the ramp function, emphasizing that it turns on the signal in certain regions and turns it off in others.
  • There is a humorous exchange about understanding basic multiplication, suggesting that the participant may be misunderstanding the multiplication process in the context of the functions.
  • A later reply indicates that one participant has gained clarity on the topic after the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the multiplication of the ramp and step functions, with some confusion remaining about the correct approach to sketching y(t). The discussion does not reach a consensus on the specific errors in the initial sketches.

Contextual Notes

Participants' sketches and interpretations of the functions may depend on their understanding of the multiplication of the ramp and step functions, which remains a point of contention. The discussion highlights the need for clarity in applying these mathematical operations.

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I sketched the signal for y(t) and my answer is shown pic1.jpg
but apparently it's wrong and the right answer from the tutorial answers is shown in pic2.jpg. So could someone tell me what I have done wrong. Thanks

Homework Statement



Consider the signal
x(t) = r(t) u(2-t)
where r(t) is the ramp function and u(t) is the step function.
The signal y(t) is formed as the periodic extension of x(t) with period 5

a. Clearly sketch the signal y(t).

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Welcome to PF!

The flat "tooths" are obviously wrong. Try sketch the two signals r(t) and u(2-t) in the same diagram and see if that helps you spot where you went wrong. Notice that when you multiply a signal with the step function you get the original signal on the "one side" of the step and zero on the "zero side".
 
hey Filip!

thanks for the reply, i drew both the functions in the same graph (shown in pic3.jpg) but I still am not getting the peak like the answer.
 

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If you still get the same flat tooth I guess you wrongly must be taking the minimum of the signals, or something similar.

You need to multiply the two signals, that is, for each t multiply the value for r(t) with the value for u(2-t). For instance, at t = 1.5 you will have r(1.5) = 1.5 and u(2-1.5) = u(0.5) = 1, so x(1.5) = r(1.5)*u(2-1.5) = 1*1.5 = 1.5 (and not 1 as you had in your first figure).

And when you get your multiplication under control you should notice, like I mentioned before, that multiplication of a step function with another signal effectively means that the unit step "turns on" a signal in some region (namely where the argument to the step function is positive) and turns it off everywhere else (namely where the argument is negative).
 
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ankyk91 said:
hey Filip!

thanks for the reply, i drew both the functions in the same graph (shown in pic3.jpg) but I still am not getting the peak like the answer.

There's no problems with that graph Ankyk. Now you just need to learn how to multiply by one.

Lets start with the ones times table

0 x 1 = 0
1 x 1 = 1
2 x 1 = 2
3 x 1 = 3
4 x 1 = 4
...

Keep practicing it, eventually you'll crack it :-p
 
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O I get it now.

Sweet! Thank you guys. Really appreciate it =)
 

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