Slippery Properties of Soap, Oil, NaOH, Bleach

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The discussion revolves around the slippery properties of sodium hydroxide (NaOH) solution, bleach (sodium hypochlorite), soap, and oils. Participants explore the underlying reasons for this slipperiness, considering both chemical reactions and physical properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that low intermolecular forces lead to low shear forces, allowing these substances to act as lubricants by filling in surface irregularities.
  • It is proposed that basic substances tend to be slippery, with NaOH specifically causing a saponification reaction that transforms skin oils into soap.
  • One participant notes that bleach, while less basic than NaOH, may still react with skin oils due to its pH level, contributing to its slippery feel.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes the role of sodium ions (Na+) in creating the soapy sensation, suggesting that other alkalis could produce similar effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the causes of slipperiness, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation. Multiple competing views remain regarding the specific mechanisms at play.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on assumptions about the chemical behavior of bases and their interactions with skin oils, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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I have noticed that (sodium hydroxide) NaOH solution and also bleach (active ingredient: sodium hypochlorite), soap and oils are all slippery to the touch.. Why is that so? What propertie do they share that allow them to behave this way?
 
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I would imagine low intermolecular forces resulting in low shear forces, and they fill in the 'valleys' of a surface. Basically that's how a lubricant works.
 
Anything that is basic is usually slippery
 
NaOH basically turns some of your skin cells into soap through a saponification reaction. I'm not sure about other bases though.
 
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NaOH basically turns some of your skin cells into soap through a saponification reaction. I'm not sure about other bases though.
Ya, I was going to say, it could be due to the NaOH (or more specifically, the OH- ?) reacting with the oils/fats in your skin making a thin layer of soap which gives it the slippery texture.
 
Thanks for all you ideas; the low intermolecular forces (for why oils or lubricants are slick) and also the saponification of base with skin oils.. I suspect that is what happens with bleach too (NaOCl) although its pH is not as high as sodium hydroxide.. It is still basic (ph = 9-10) and may be enough to enable the reaction.
 
Yeah, NaOH solutions do feel slippery, I noticed that too. I suggest keeping your hands out of them.
 
I think it is the Na+ that is specifically relevant to the soapy feeling (and the basic medium). The "soap" is after all the sodium salt of the fatty acid (of course, another alkali, K+ say, would do this too). That's probably why the same thing happens with bleach.
 
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