Small bearing or low-friction "pin" to assemble t-slot frame

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable bearing or low-friction pin to join components of a t-slot frame, allowing for rotation along a central axis. Participants explore various options for materials and designs, considering factors such as cost, durability, and ease of assembly.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a bearing or a low-friction pin made from Teflon, emphasizing the need for cost-effectiveness and durability for frequent use.
  • Another participant proposes looking into swivel key rings or barrel bearing swivels as potential solutions, noting their affordability and availability.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a simple dowel or pin inserted into a bushing, with the addition of grease for lubrication.
  • There is a discussion about using an M5 cheese head bolt, which might fit the slot dimensions, along with a square nut for securing it, and the possibility of using locktite for added stability.
  • Participants express curiosity about lubrication options, with one suggesting wheel bearing grease.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to achieve the desired functionality, with no consensus reached on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various materials and designs without resolving the specifics of their suitability or availability. There are also uncertainties regarding the exact dimensions and compatibility of suggested components.

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Individuals interested in mechanical design, DIY projects involving t-slot frames, or those seeking low-cost solutions for rotational joints may find this discussion relevant.

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Howdy folks

I have to say up-front, that I am not an ME by trade. My background is in EE. So, I apologize in advance if I accidentally make my question confusing.

I need to join a couple of these

http://www.minitecframing.com/Produ...talog_Pages/20.1074_19X11_Profile_Square.html

with a bearing that will allow rotation along one axis. I need to provide a bearing that will go in the outer slot (red rectangle) and provide rotation around the central axis (blue line)

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Could be a bearing, could be a simple "pin" of Teflon or some other low-friction material. I would like the option of either fixing linear motion in the slot or letting it move freely,
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but if only one of those options is possible, I will go with whatever is cheapest. As you can see from the site, they have their own nuts and bolts for fixed joints, so if my only (reasonably priced) option is to have something sitting outside the slot, so be it.

The primary design parameter is price, followed closely by durability. I expect it to be used 5-10 times a day for a period of some years, and experience lateral stress (perpendicular to axis of rotation) of approximately 20-40 lbs. Also, if it's any more than $1/piece, I may have to rethink the project.

In general, I am extremely curious about the process you folks use to find stuff like this. I'm assuming people don't just send drawings to McMaster-Carr?

Many thanks in advance for any help

Joe
 
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Nothing specific but a Google search for Swivel Key Ring returns many ideas that may lead to something.

I also tried Swivel Lifting Rings but they are rated in tons of lift ability and prices are the 3-digit variety.

Fishermen use something called a Barrel Bearing Swivel that may be modifiable, 60lb test and $0.50 each. see:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H991N3S/?tag=pfamazon01-20

So there are a few leads, hope it helps.

Tom
 
For that kind of duty cycle perhaps you would consider a simple dowel or pin inserted into a bushing. Add a little grease.
 
tygerdawg said:
For that kind of duty cycle perhaps you would consider a simple dowel or pin inserted into a bushing. Add a little grease.
Where would I get a pin like that? Or grease?
 
Google suggests that the head of an M5 cheese head bolt has a diameter of 8.5mm which would just about fit the 8.6mm slot? Perhaps you could use one of the M5 square nuts they sell into the other side. Adjust the screw through a hole and hit the threads of the square nut with locktite or similar?
 
CWatters said:
Google suggests that the head of an M5 cheese head bolt has a diameter of 8.5mm which would just about fit the 8.6mm slot? Perhaps you could use one of the M5 square nuts they sell into the other side. Adjust the screw through a hole and hit the threads of the square nut with locktite or similar?

Absolutely worth a shot as a proof of concept. Any suggestions for lubrication?
 
Wheel bearing grease?
 

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