Small Sample Size - Test for Difference between Brands with Normal Distribution

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This discussion focuses on testing for differences in ingredient weights between two brands (X and Y) using a small sample size of 8 samples per brand. The recommended statistical test is a nested two-way ANOVA, assuming the data is approximately normally distributed. If the data is not normal, participants are advised to explore non-parametric methods. The conversation highlights the complexity of these statistical concepts, suggesting that they are typically covered in advanced statistics courses.

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Lets say I have 8 samples (weight) of 4 ingredients in particular food by X brand and another 8 samples by Y brand. I would like to test to see if there is any difference between the two brands in terms of weight of particular ingredients. However, I am not sure what statistic test to run and I don't know whether my data is normal or not (especially because my sample size is small). Any guidance will be helpful.

Thnx
 
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HeapofAsh said:
Lets say I have 8 samples (weight) of 4 ingredients in particular food by X brand and another 8 samples by Y brand. I would like to test to see if there is any difference between the two brands in terms of weight of particular ingredients. However, I am not sure what statistic test to run and I don't know whether my data is normal or not (especially because my sample size is small). Any guidance will be helpful.

Thnx

If you are able to assume that the data are at least approximately normally distributed, this would be a two-way analysis-of-variance problem (ANOVA), where you have two brands (X and Y) along one "axis" and ingredient type (1,2,3,4) along the other "axis". WARNING: this is an example of a so-called "nested" two-way ANOVA, because we do not 'cross' ingredient with brand (which would give 4x2 = 8 combinations repeated 8 times---for a total of 8x8 = 64 data points), but rather, just 16 data points. To see what type of tests to perform, look up 'Nested ANOVA'.

You should be aware that some of this type of material is often only covered in a second course in Applied Statistics, and that students have trouble grasping some of it---not to mention getting terminally confused and making lots of errors. Looking at a book (rather than a web page) is preferable, but it should probably not be an introductory textbook.

Anyway, for what it is worth, see, eg.,
http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~zhanghao/STAT514/handout/nested.pdf
http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/ppc/section2/ppc233.htm
http://biol09.biol.umontreal.ca/PLcourses/Nested_and_two-way_anova.pdf
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/pls/portallive/docs/1/1171923.PDF

Other issues arise if the data are not normally distributed (or at least, approximately so), and I know little to nothing about how to proceed in that case. Look up 'non-parametric methods'.
 
Ray Vickson said:
You should be aware that some of this type of material is often only covered in a second course in Applied Statistics, and that students have trouble grasping some of it---not to mention getting terminally confused and making lots of errors. Looking at a book (rather than a web page) is preferable, but it should probably not be an introductory textbook.

Yeah it seems beyond my stat course level. How about doing hypothesis test on difference of means or proportion of each type of ingredient.

For the amount (weight) of flour in food by Brand x and Brand y:
H0:Px= Py
HA:Px≠ Py

And do the same for different ingredients. If they it turns out that the Px= Py for all 4 different ingredients, would i be able to say there are no significant difference between the two brands (at least in terms of amount of ingredients).
 

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