Small Signal Model for transistors

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The discussion revolves around the small signal model for transistors, focusing on its practical applications, differences from the large signal model, and contexts in which each model should be used. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects relevant to electronics and circuit design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the practical application of the small signal model in electronics circuits and when to use the large signal model.
  • Another participant explains that the small-signal model provides AC characteristics around a biased point, useful for calculating AC gain and impedance in circuits.
  • Several participants inquire about the differences between the small signal and large signal models, highlighting the challenges in calculating gain, bandwidth, and distortion directly from first principles.
  • It is noted that the small signal model simplifies analysis by assuming the signal is small enough not to alter the device's operating point, making calculations easier and more insightful.
  • One participant describes the small signal model as a linear approximation that works well for small excursions around a fixed point, using the example of a diode's exponential curve to illustrate linearization.
  • There is a mention of the variability of transistor characteristics, such as β, with changes in collector and base currents, emphasizing the complexity of large signal behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and inquiry regarding the small signal and large signal models, with no consensus reached on the best practices for their application. Multiple viewpoints on the complexities and assumptions involved in each model are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the nonlinear characteristics of transistors and the challenges in analysis, indicating that assumptions made in the small signal model may not hold in all scenarios. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and interpretations regarding the application of these models.

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Hi everyone, at my university (Computer engineering) we are studying the small signal model, but i didn't understand the practical application, i mean, why and when should it be used ?

For example at home i usually make electronics circuits, so i wanted to know how can i use the small signal model in my experiments ?

And when to use the large signal model ?

Thank you,
 
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The small-signal model tells you the AC characteristics around a biased point. It is used when you need the AC characteristics (gain, impedance) of the transistor so that you can calculate the AC gain or impedance of the circuit that incorporates that transistor.
 
And what's the difference between large signal model?
 
nebbione said:
And what's the difference between large signal model?

... a small signal model, which lends itself well to small signal design and analysis. ... charge control model, which is particularly well suited to analyze the large-signal transient behavior ...


http://ecee.colorado.edu/~bart/book/book/chapter5/ch5_6.htm
 
nebbione said:
And what's the difference between large signal model?

The issue is that it is VERY difficult to calculate things like gain, bandwidth, and distortion directly from first principles. You end up with Volterra series which are notoriously difficult to deal with.

By making some assumptions (the main one being the signal is small enough not to change the device's operating point) you can make the calculations MUCH easier, and also more insightful.

In practice you use the small-signal model whenever you can, and the large-signal model when you must.
 
nebbione said:
And what's the difference between large signal model?
The characteristic curves of a transistor are very nonlinear. Its β varies with IC, its VBE varies exponentially with IB, etc. The small signal model is a linear approximation that works well for small excursions around a fixedpoint, and allows much easier analysis & design. See below.

The best idea is to think of the diode's exponential curve. For small excursions around a point on that curve, we can represent the exponential's behaviour as a DC voltage source in series with a fixed resistor, we have linearised the characteristic. The resistor value needed? It's determined as being equal to the slope of the exponential at that operating point.

Suppose you see that your transistor's collector current is 100mA when its base current is 1mA. You'd probably say its β = 100. But then you notice that for a collector current of 115mA the base current needed is 1.3mA. So it seems β here is only about 90? But when designing for small changes, we say IC changed by 15mA when IB changed by 0.3mA, giving a small signal β = ΔIC / ΔIB = 50[/color]
 

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