Small Tracking Devices: Dog Trackers .5 Mile & Smaller

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The discussion revolves around finding small tracking devices suitable for dog tracking, specifically those that can operate effectively over distances of 0.5 miles or more. Participants explore various technologies, including GPS and RF tracking systems, and consider the challenges posed by terrain and device size.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about small tracking devices that can be tracked over a distance of 0.5 miles or more, emphasizing the need for a compact size.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of achieving significant range with such a small device, particularly in challenging terrains like woods or hills, and suggests looking into existing wildlife tracking devices.
  • A participant questions whether a specific RF transmitter requires line-of-sight to function effectively in hilly and wooded areas.
  • Discussion includes the idea that GPS devices are primarily for mapping a dog's path after retrieval, as they are receive-only and do not provide real-time tracking.
  • One participant mentions that VHF and UHF frequencies are typically line-of-sight and may not work well over hills, but notes that some systems claim to function up to 2 miles under adverse conditions.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for a real-time tracking solution similar to car GPS systems, indicating a willingness to accommodate slightly larger devices.
  • A participant raises a question about the size of GPS components in cell phones, suggesting that they might be small enough for the intended application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of suitable tracking devices or the effectiveness of the proposed technologies in various terrains. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the capabilities of different tracking systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to terrain effects on signal transmission, device size constraints, and the nature of GPS technology as primarily receive-only. There are also concerns about the cost of tracking systems mentioned in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in pet tracking solutions, wildlife tracking technologies, or those exploring compact tracking devices for various applications may find this discussion relevant.

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Does anyone know of a very small tracking device or tag that can be tracked .5 mile or more and the size of watch battery or smaller. I looking for such a device for dog tracking.
 
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That sounds pretty small to have much range. Especially if the dog can be in the woods or over a hill, it will be pretty hard to get much signal out to a receiver. Your best bet might be to look at the existing animal tracking devices that are used by the Fish and Game folks for wildlife tracking.

I googled wildlife tracking systems, and got lots of good hits. Here's the hit list:

http://www.google.com/search?source...T4SUNA_en___US232&q=wildlife+tracking+systems

Interesting, if you are just interested in where the dog has been, you can use a GPS recording tracker, and upload the information after the dog comes back. That's no help if you're trying to find the dog, of course.

Hmmm, one of the first hits on the list is for a UK company that originally made RF tracking devices for falcons in the Middle East. Having the falcon up in the air (and not over a hill) makes for better line-of-sight RF propagation, but still, these transmitters are tiny!

http://www.wildlifetracking.co.uk/tx.htm

Hope that helps. Welcome to the PF, BTW.
 
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Thanks for the information. The link shows the transmitter but does this tranmitter have to have a line of sight to work? The terrain is hilly and sometimes dense woods. Do you think that product may work? Do you know of any type of GPS or GMS systems?
 
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GPS would only be for mapping the dog's path after you get him back -- it's a receive-only device that the dog wears.

This link out of the google hit list looks to be a pretty good source of information about dog tracking collars:

http://wildlifematerials.com/dog/faq.php?q=2

The frequencies that I see being mentioned in the links in the hit list are mainly VHF and UHF frequencies, which are basically line-of-sight, and won't carry over the tops of hills. However, in the link above, they claim their system works to about 2 miles "in adverse conditions" whatever that is -- maybe raining in the woods? You might try giving their Customer Service folks a call to get more information. You might even be able to get some references of satisfied customers from them, and give them a call to talk about how well the system works.

I've noticed in many of the links that these systems are pretty pricey, though. You may need to do some shopping around to find some lower-priced systems.
 
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I really would like to try to find something real time that I can watch on a hand held unit. sort of like a gps for a car, when driving my vehicle I can see my movement. I indicated earlier the size of a watch battery but I think my cylinder I can use will accomadate the size of a pencil. Any such device availible out there.
 
I gave this some thought how big are the gps that are in the cell phones. They have to be small? Anyone know?
 

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