SO(2,1) - Haar measure, exponential map

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of the group SO(2,1), specifically focusing on the surjectivity of the exponential map and the formulation of the Haar measure in relation to the Lie algebra. Participants explore whether the exponential map is onto, the implications of connectedness, and the relationship to the Lebesgue integral over subsets of the Lie algebra.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the surjectivity of the exponential map for SO(2,1) and seeks references for understanding the Haar measure in this context.
  • Another participant asserts that SO(2,1) is not connected, noting that the connected component related to the identity, SO+(2,1), has a surjective exponential map, referencing a specific proposition from the literature.
  • A participant suggests that each element of the Lie algebra generates a 1-parameter subgroup in the connected part of the group, implying a path-connected structure.
  • Another participant questions the generality of the claim regarding path-connectedness and surjectivity, mentioning that while it may hold for compact groups, it may not apply universally to matrix groups, particularly in the context of diffeomorphism groups.
  • Discussion includes the isomorphism of SO(2,1) to SL(2,ℝ) and the implications of this relationship for understanding the geometry of the group.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the surjectivity of the exponential map and the implications of connectedness. There is no consensus on the general behavior of the exponential map in relation to disconnectedness and noncompactness.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of connectedness and the specific properties of the groups involved. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical intricacies surrounding the Haar measure or the precise nature of the subsets of the Lie algebra.

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I wasn't quite sure where to put this, so here goes:

I am trying to find out some facts about the group SO(2,1). Specifically; Is the exponential map onto? If so, can the Haar measure be written in terms of the Lebesgue integral over a suitable subset of the Lie algebra? What is that subset?

If the exponential map isn't onto, then for what subset of the Lie algebra is it at least 1-1 (injective)?

I was hoping there would be a reference out there that explained these things, but have so far been unable to find it.

Thank you.
 
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SO(2,1) is not connected. There is a component that is connected to the identity, called ##SO^+(2,1)##, for which the exponential map is surjective. This is assumed in all of the physics literature on the Lorentz group, but I am at a loss to come up with a simple convincing proof at the moment. The surjectivity is claimed as a result of Nishikawa in prop 1.6 in http://www.heldermann-verlag.de/jlt/jlt07/DOKHOFPL.PDF.

Since the exponential map is surjective, you should be able to use the Maurer-Cartan 1-form ##\omega= g^{-1} dg## to build the Haar measure using the appropriate angle and real parameters.
 
Could you say something like: Each element of the Lie algebra generates a 1-parameter subgroup in the connected part of the group, and locally the basis elements of the Lie algebra take you in orthogonal directions. Therefore you can string together a series of curves which take you from the origin to any point which it is path connected?
 
Bobhawke said:
Could you say something like: Each element of the Lie algebra generates a 1-parameter subgroup in the connected part of the group, and locally the basis elements of the Lie algebra take you in orthogonal directions. Therefore you can string together a series of curves which take you from the origin to any point which it is path connected?

What you say is true for compact groups. It may also be true for the connected components of matrix groups. I'm not familiar enough with the esoteric details to say with 100% confidence. The counter-examples to surjectivity for matrix groups that I've found in the literature all seem to be related to disconnectedness. On the other hand I know that for diffeomorphism groups, the exponential map is not generally surjective, and this is directly related to noncompactness, rather than disconnectedness.

For SO(2,1) we have some extra tricks available, since it is isomorphic to ##SL(2,\mathbb{R})##. The connected component is ##PSL(2,\mathbb{R})=SL(2,\mathbb{R})/\{\pm I\}##. So we can use the fact that the geometry is that of the unit tangent bundle of the hyperbolic (upper-half) plane (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL2(R)#Topology_and_universal_cover).
 

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