Socks in the Dryer: Benjamin Franklin's Positive-Negative Theory

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of socks disappearing in dryers, with references to Benjamin Franklin's positive-negative theory of static electricity. Participants explore the materials involved, their static properties, and humorous theories about missing socks, including speculative ideas about black holes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that wool is defined as positive and polypropylene as negative according to Franklin's theory.
  • There are references to a chart of static reactivity, suggesting that materials further apart on the list exhibit greater static charge potential.
  • One participant humorously proposes that a black hole in dryers is responsible for the disappearance of socks, noting the prevalence of single socks found on highways.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of "non-conservation of parity" in relation to missing socks.
  • Some participants discuss the role of cotton socks, suggesting they may act as moderators or catalysts in static interactions.
  • There is a disagreement regarding the most negatively charged material, with one participant claiming it is ebonite, while another suggests silicon rubber is ranked second from the bottom.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the static properties of materials and the humorous theories about missing socks. There is no consensus on the most negatively charged material or the exact mechanisms at play in the dryer.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various charts and lists regarding static reactivity, but the specifics of these sources and their assumptions remain unclear. The discussion includes speculative and humorous elements that may not be grounded in empirical evidence.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the interplay of materials and static electricity, as well as those who enjoy humorous takes on everyday phenomena like missing socks.

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In the dryer were one pair wool socks, one pair black polypropylene, and a dozen or so cotton socks. Each white wool sock was stuck to one black polypro sock. Each pair was folded onto one another in a sort of coil.

Benjamin Franklin defined wool as positive, so polypro is negative.
 
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Hornbein said:
Benjamin Franklin defined wool as positive, so polypro is negative.
I've seen a chart of sorts for levels of "static reactivity" or whatever its called but the further apart on the list the more static "power" they have. I think it has like glass, leather, wool, etc.
 
I am fairly certain that a black hole exists in everyone's dryer that occasionally sucks up just ONE sock and dumps it out onto some random highway somewhere along the west coast of the USA. I've seen so many single socks along so many highways just laying there all lost and forlorn. :oldbiggrin:
 
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I'm sure it has been called before now' non-conservation of parity'.
 
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jerromyjon said:
I've seen a chart of sorts for levels of "static reactivity" or whatever its called but the further apart on the list the more static "power" they have. I think it has like glass, leather, wool, etc.

Looking up static reactivity there was something about neutron scattering. Maybe the cotton socks acted as a moderator.

Another list seemed to say that human skin had more tendency to become positively charged than anything else except air. Maybe there really is something to the health aspect of it. Neutral materials like cotton are quite rare. The most negative is silicon rubber.
 
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Hornbein said:
... The most negative is silicon rubber.
No, it's ebonite that is found most negatively charged in an triboeletric effect. Silicon rubber is only ranked second from the bottom.:biggrin:
 
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Hornbein said:
Maybe the cotton socks acted as a moderator.
Or a catalyst, like a spin-foam twist inducer..
 
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