Solution for Expressing Derivatives in Terms of u

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The discussion revolves around expressing derivatives of a function \( w(r, \theta) \) in terms of another function \( u(x, y) \) within the context of a partial differential equation (PDE). The original poster seeks to compute the partial derivatives \( \frac{\partial w}{\partial r} \) and \( \frac{\partial w}{\partial \theta} \) based on the relationships between the variables in polar coordinates.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between the derivatives of \( w \) and \( u \) using the chain rule, with attempts to express these derivatives in terms of \( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \) and \( \frac{\partial u}{\partial y} \). There are questions about the correctness of the derivatives and how to substitute variables appropriately. Some participants suggest simplifying the expressions using relationships between \( x, y \) and \( r, \theta \).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on computing derivatives and expressing them in terms of the original variables. There is a recognition of the need to rewrite the PDE in polar coordinates, and some participants are exploring the implications of initial conditions on the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the initial condition \( u(x, 0) = 0 \) and the range \( 0 < x < \infty \). There is also a discussion about the implications of these conditions in the context of polar coordinates.

  • #31
cos\theta = 1 when \theta = 0

so that gives r = x, the initial condition?
 
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  • #32
gtfitzpatrick said:
cos\theta = 1 when \theta = 0

so that gives r = x, the initial condition?

The initial condition was u(x,0)=0, which we found was equivalent to w(r,\theta)=0. The fact that r=x when y=0 doesn't restrict the solution.
 
  • #33
provided 0<r<\infty ?
 
  • #34
gtfitzpatrick said:
provided 0<r<\infty ?

Yes, the initial condition doesn't pick out a value of r, though it does exclude r=0 for a reason that will probably become apparent when you have the complete solution in hand.
 
  • #35
cool thank a mill
 

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