Solution to quadratic equation doesn't look right

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The problem involves a pitcher throwing a ball towards a wall 85 feet away, with an initial speed of 5 feet/second and an acceleration of 32 feet/sec². The original poster attempts to determine how long it takes for the ball to reach the wall using the equation for distance.

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  • The original poster sets up a quadratic equation based on distance and speed, but questions the validity of their solution after calculating a time of approximately 1.55 seconds. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the problem's physical realism and the nature of the forces acting on the ball.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some providing guidance on the physical principles involved, such as the effects of gravity and the need to consider horizontal and vertical components of motion. There is no explicit consensus on the problem's validity or the correctness of the original poster's approach.

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Some participants express skepticism about the problem's realism, noting that the acceleration described may not accurately reflect the ball's motion after being thrown. There are also discussions about the implications of the ball's speed and the effects of gravity on its trajectory.

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Homework Statement



A pitcher throws a ball towards a wall that's 85 feet away from him. The ball's initial speed is 5 feet/second, and the acceleration of the ball is 32 feet/sec^2. How long does the ball travel before hitting the wall?

Homework Equations



distance = rate * time

The Attempt at a Solution



So the speed of the ball I have as:

[t = time]

5 + 32t

Which I believe makes sense because the ball is initially traveling @ 5 ft/sec, and after 1 second, the ball is traveling 37 ft/sec, then after 2 seconds the ball is traveling @ 69 ft.sec, etc.

I assume we use d = rt (which is distance = rate * time).

So the total distance the ball travels is 85 feet which is equal to the total rate of 5 + 32t * time. The equation I set up like this:

85 = (5 + 32t) * t

I set up the quadratic like so:

32t^2 + 5t - 85 = 0

I solved it and got:

(1/64) * (sqrt(10905) - 5) which is approx. 1.55.

I worked it out to check, and 1.55 seconds is much too low for the value:

5 feet + (32 feet * 2 seconds) = 69 feet

So after 2 seconds, the ball has only traveled 69 feet, while the quadratic equation states that the ball has traveled 85 feet after 1.55 seconds.

What gives?
 
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hatelove said:
So the speed of the ball I have as:

[t = time]

5 + 32t

hatelove said:
5 feet + (32 feet * 2 seconds) = 69 feet

So after 2 seconds, the ball has only traveled 69 feet, while the quadratic equation states that the ball has traveled 85 feet after 1.55 seconds.

What gives?
You're forgetting that 5+32t represents speed, not distance.
 
hatelove said:
A pitcher throws a ball towards a wall that's 85 feet away from him. The ball's initial speed is 5 feet/second, and the acceleration of the ball is 32 feet/sec^2. How long does the ball travel before hitting the wall?
This sounds like a made-up problem that doesn't have much connection to reality. After the ball leaves the pitcher's hand, the only acceleration on it is due to gravity, which acts straight down. Maybe the ball happens to have a propellor or rocket motor attached? Is this the exact wording of the problem?
 
Because this is a two dimensional problem. you should break it into horizontal and vertical components. As Mark44 said there is an acceleration of -9.81 m/s^2 in the vertical direction and no acceleration in the horizontal direction.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Because this is a two dimensional problem. you should break it into horizontal and vertical components. As Mark44 said there is an acceleration of -9.81 m/s^2 in the vertical direction and no acceleration in the horizontal direction.

Or since he's using feet and seconds, an acceleration of about -32 ft/s^2 vertical and 0 horizontal.
 
hatelove said:
A pitcher throws a ball towards a wall that's 85 feet away from him. The ball's initial speed is 5 feet/second, and the acceleration of the ball is 32 feet/sec^2. How long does the ball travel before hitting the wall?
As I said before, this is really a flaky problem, with almost no grounding in reality. I still wonder if the OP is showing the correct statement for this problem.

Has anyone noticed that the ball's speed is 5 ft/sec? That works out to about 3.4 mi/hr. If I start walking toward the wall at the same time the ball is thrown, I'll get there first (I can walk faster than 3.4 mph).

Furthermore, I can't imagine any scenario in which the ball would actually get to the wall, inasmuch as it will fall ~4600 ft during its flight.
 

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