Solution to the nonlinear 2nd order d.e

In summary, the conversation is about solving a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation with constants a, b, and c. One approach is to denote the derivative of y as v and solve for v using integration, then solve for y from there. Another approach is to use Cardano formulas to solve for v, but it can be complicated. The conversation also discusses the possibility of using a substitution method to solve the equation.
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younginmoon
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Hello:

Can anyone help me solve with the following nonlinear 2nd order differential equation?

d^2 y/dx^2 (1+a(dy/dx)^2)=bx^c
(a,b & c are constants.)



Thank you.

younginmoon
 

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Luckily, this equation doesn't contain the function y(x) itself, only its derivatives. So denote y'(x) = f(x), you get an equation of first order for f(x), which is solvable by simplle integration. Then go back and solve y'(x) = f(x) for y(x).
 
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smallphi said:
Luckily, this equation doesn't contain the function y(x) itself, only its derivatives. So denote y'(x) = f(x), you get an equation of first order for f(x), which is solvable by simplle integration. Then go back and solve y'(x) = f(x) for y(x).

Thanks!
Starting with v=y', the original equation becomes
v + A v^3 = B x^C (A, B & C are constants) and the solution is composed of complimentary and particular integrals. But, how do you handle with the cubic term (v^3)
in both integrals? Or is there another solution method? (younginmoon)
 
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Cardano formulas for solving the qubic equation for v, but they are quite a mess.
 
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younginmoon said:
Thanks!
Starting with v=y', the original equation becomes
v + A v^3 = B x^C (A, B & C are constants) and the solution is composed of complimentary and particular integrals. But, how do you handle with the cubic term (v^3)
in both integrals? Or is there another solution method? (younginmoon)


Don't forget the additive constant obtained when you integrate the first time:

[tex]v + \frac{a}{3}v^3 = \frac{b}{c+1}x^{c+1} + k[/tex]

As for solving, you might try guessing that you can write the expression in the form [itex](v + f(x))^2(v + g(x)) = 0[/itex], then expand and compare to the equation above to see if you can choose f(x) and g(x) such that this expression holds and expands to your original equation. (You might instead try the more general [itex](v+f(x))(v+g(x))(v+h(x)) = 0[/itex], as there's really no obvious reason to expect a double root). There is of course no guarantee you can solve the problem this way, since solving for f, g and h might be just as hard if not harder than solving for v, but it might be worth a shot.
 
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1. What is a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation?

A nonlinear 2nd order differential equation is a mathematical equation that involves a function and its derivatives up to the second order. It is called nonlinear because the function in the equation is not a straight line, making it more complex to solve than a linear equation.

2. Why is finding a solution to a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation difficult?

Finding a solution to a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation is difficult because there is no general method or formula for solving these types of equations. Each equation must be approached individually, and the solution often requires advanced mathematical techniques.

3. What are some common techniques used to solve nonlinear 2nd order differential equations?

Some common techniques used to solve nonlinear 2nd order differential equations include separation of variables, substitution, and power series solutions. Other methods such as Laplace transforms and numerical methods may also be used depending on the specific equation.

4. Can a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation have multiple solutions?

Yes, a nonlinear 2nd order differential equation can have multiple solutions. In fact, there can be an infinite number of solutions depending on the initial conditions. This is because these equations are highly sensitive to initial conditions and small changes can result in vastly different solutions.

5. How are solutions to nonlinear 2nd order differential equations used in science?

Solutions to nonlinear 2nd order differential equations are used in various fields of science, such as physics, engineering, and biology, to model and predict complex systems. These equations can help us understand the behavior of natural phenomena and make predictions about future outcomes.

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