Solve Beam Torque Problem: Find Cord Tension & Hinge Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving torque, forces, and equilibrium in a beam system. The scenario includes a beam supported by a cord and attached to a hinge, with additional weight applied at the end of the beam.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the tension in the cord and the force exerted by the hinge, using torque equations and force components. They express confusion regarding the calculation of the hinge force.
  • Some participants question the method of balancing forces and torques, suggesting a focus on setting torques to zero rather than balancing them.
  • There is a discussion about determining the y-component of the hinge force and its relationship to the vertical forces acting on the beam.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of force components and the interpretation of torque balance. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being examined.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented, including specific angles, weights, and distances. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between forces and torques without providing definitive solutions.

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There is an 80kg beam attached to a hinge on a wall and supported by a cord. The angle between the cord and the beam is 25 degrees. The beam is 4.5m long., and the cord is attached to the beam a metre from the beam's end. There is a 20kg beam hanging from the very tip of the beam. Find the cord tension and the force exerted by the hinge.

CW Torque=(80kg)(9.8m/s^2)(2.25m)+(20kg)(9.8m/s^2)(4.50m)
=2646Nm

Since the torques must balance:

2646Nm=F(3.5m)
F=756N

Plug this into the right triangle created by the cord and the beam:

Tension in the cord=cos65/756N=1790N

Now here's where I have the trouble. How do I get the force exerted by the hinge? I found the x xomponent, which is 1790sin65. But when I use this answer to find the force vector of the hinge, I don't get the right answer.

(1790sin65)(sin25)=687N. The answer is 1600N. Where have I gone wrong?
 
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The hinge will exert an x and y component force.

You're right that the x-component will be 1790 cos(25) [or as you put it, sin(65)].

Now you have to find the y-component.
 
The y-component is the force from the hinge that would balance all the other forces along the beam? Because the torque is already balanced.
 
Don't think of it as "balancing" torques. Think of it as setting all of the torques set to 0.

You're right in that if you set all of the vertical forces set to 0 then you can find the y-component of the reaction force at the hinge. The thing to realize though is that if you take the moments (torques) about any point on the beam, they should add to zero. (Well actually if you take the moments about any point in space they should add to zero.)
 
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