Solve Derivative of sin^2(pie*Z) with respect to Z

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function sin²(πZ) with respect to Z. Participants are exploring the application of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule and power rule, in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest using the chain rule and power rule for differentiation, while others express confusion about the correct application of these rules. There are discussions about whether to consider constants like π as variables or fixed numbers in the differentiation process.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various interpretations and approaches to the differentiation process. Some have provided partial derivatives and reasoning, but there is no explicit consensus on the final answer yet.

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There is some uncertainty regarding the treatment of constants and the application of differentiation rules, with participants questioning assumptions about the function's structure and the rules involved.

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Homework Statement



What is the derivative of sin^2(pie*Z) with respect to Z

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I think the answer is pie/2*sin(pie*Z)

Is this correct? I keep getting confused with whether or not I should involve the 2 or not of should just leaving it along and just focus on my angle, Z
 
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sin^2(pie*Z) is sin^{2}(\piz)?
If it is, Then can't you use the chain rule? which is power rule on the whole out side of the ( ) and then it by multiply by the derivatives of the inside of the ( ). because sin^{2}(\piz) is just the same as (sin(\piz))^{2}
 
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(\sin{x})^2 = \sin^{2}x
 
yeah, so Use the chain rule. Look at it as (sinx)^2 because is easier if you look at it like this.
 
no pie is inside the paranthesis next to Z. I was thinking of doing the chain rule but wasnt sure. but its sin -square and the angle is pie next to Z

Is the answer sin over two *pie
 
\frac{d}{dz}\sin^{2}{(\pi Z)}
 
innightmare said:
no pie is inside the paranthesis next to Z. I was thinking of doing the chain rule but wasnt sure. but its sin -square and the angle is pie next to Z

Is the answer sin over two *pie
no, chain rule?
 
hm..I believe the derivative of sin is cos. so the answer should be 2cos(pi*Z) * (Pi) or 2\picos(\piZ).

the first part is power rule and derivative of the Sin which is Cos. for the inside of the ( ), since it's product of a variable and a constant, we know that Pi is a number hence it a constant. So you take the dervitive of pi*Z and use the product rule:
it will be
Pi*1 + Z*(0)=Pi.
 
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chain rule.

>_> just do the derivative of x^2 with respect to x [x=sin(pi z)] (the deravative is 2x). After that multiply by the derivative of x with repect to z. d/dz (sin(pi z)) = pi cos(pi z).

and this is: 2 pi sin(pi z)cos(pi z) and I think that's also equal to pi sin(2pi z) by trigonomtric identities, but not sure about that.
 
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dr3vil704 said:
hm..I believe the derivative of sin is cos. so the answer should be 2cos(pi*Z) * (Pi) or 2\picos(\piZ).

the first part is power rule and derivative of the Sin which is Cos. for the inside of the ( ), since it's product of a variable and a constant, we know that Pi is a number hence it a constant. So you take the dervitive of pi*Z and use the product rule:
it will be
Pi*1 + Z*(0)=Pi.

NO product rule! \pi is NOT a variable, it is a constant just like 2 or \frac{3}{4} or any other NUMBER.


The chain rule qualitatively says: Take the derivative of the 'outside function' with the inside function as its argument and multiply it times the derivative of the 'inside function'.

In this case there are 2 outside functions. Start with the squared function and work your way inwards.

Casey
 

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