Solve Eigenvalue Problem for ODE: Find Eigenvalue & Eigenfunctions

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The discussion revolves around solving an eigenvalue problem for a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) with specified boundary conditions. The characteristic equation yields a double root at λ = -1, indicating this is the only eigenvalue. The corresponding eigenfunctions are derived as y = c₁e^(-x) + c₂xe^(-x), where c₁ must be zero to satisfy the boundary condition y(0) = 0, leading to a family of solutions based on c₂. The uniqueness of the solution is questioned, as multiple values of c₂ can satisfy the derivative condition, highlighting the nature of eigenvalues and eigenfunctions in this context. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting boundary conditions and the implications for the solutions' uniqueness.
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I have this eigenvalue problem:
\frac{\mbox{d}^2y}{\mbox{d}x^2}+\left(1-\lambda\right)\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}-\lambda y = 0 \ , \ x\in[0,1], \ \lambda\in\mathbb{R} <br />
y(0)=0
\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}(1)=0
Then, I have to show that there exists only one eigenvalue \lambda, and find this eigenvalue and write the corresponding eigenfunctions.

Thus far, I have solved the ODE's characteristic equation
r^2+(1-\lambda)r-\lambda=0.
This gives me two solutions
r=-1 and r=\lambda.
Thus the solution to the ODE is
<br /> y=c_1\exp(-x)+c_2\exp(\lambda x) \ , \ x\in\mathbb{R} \ , \ c_1, \ c_2\in\mathbb{R} <br />.

Can I now conclude that because we only have real solutions to the characteristic equation, only one eigenvalue exists?

Secondly, I am not completely sure how to find the sought eigenvalue. I know how to find the eigenvalue when I have a solution that involves \sin and \cos, but here I am not sure how to do it. Could anyone give me a hint?

Thirdly, when I have the eigenvalue there should not be any problems in writing the corresponding eigenfunctions, or is it?

I would appreciate any help. I am not looking for a solution to my homework problem, but any hints to the problem mentioned above are welcome.
 
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You miss text from the problem.In order for that to be a genuine Cauchy problem,you need to specify 2 initial conditions.Besides,you didn't use the one which u have posted...:wink:

Daniel.
 
An "eigenvalue" is a value of &lamba; such that the problem has a non-trivial solution. Have you determined what functions satisfy your other conditions?
(You have y(0)= 0 but then is see only \frac{dy}{dx}. Did you mean \frac{dy}{dx}(0)= 0 or \frac{dy}{dx}(1)= 0?)

The problem is a lot easier if it is \frac{dy}{dx}(0)= 0!

Put x= 0 into the formulas for y and dy/dx and you get two equations to solve for c1 and c2. For what values of &lamda; can you NOT solve for specific value of c1 and c2?
 
He corrected his typo and now he can follow your advice for finding "lambda"...:approve:

Daniel.
 
Has anyone tried to calculate the eigenvalue? My suggestion is \lambda=-1. Can anyone either confirm or refute this?
 
What is the system of equations for C_{1} & C_{2}...?

Daniel.
 
When I use the initial conditions, I get this system of equations:

c_1+c_2=0
-c_1\exp(-1)+c_2\lambda\exp(\lambda)=0

I then guess that \lambda=-1, and find out that with this eigenvalue you cannot solve the system for any particular value of c_1 and c_2.
 
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Yes,indeed,lambda=-1 makes the 2 equations identical.

Now find the eigenfunctions corresponding to \lambda=-1

Daniel.
 
Deleted- DexterCioby beat me to it!
 
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Halls,it has lambda =-1...:wink:

I "guess" -1 can be called elementary,huh...?

Daniel.
 
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Well, the eigenfunctions corresponding to \lambda=-1 must then be

y=c_1\exp(-x)+c_2\exp(-x)=(c_1+c_2)\exp(-x)=c\exp(-x),~~c_1,\,c_2,\,c\in\mathbb{R}
 
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Yes.y(x)=C\exp(-x),C\in\mathbb{R} is the awaited sollution.

Daniel.
 
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After I have talked to the teacher, I have realized that the eigenfunction written in post #11 is wrong. The reason is that when \lambda=-1, the characteristic equation has a double root r=-1. Thus, the solution is y=c_1\exp(-x)+c_2x\exp(-x), and NOT y=c\exp(-x) as written earlier. Do you agree dextercioby?
 
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sigmund said:
After I have talked to the teacher, I have realized that the eigenfunction written in post #11 is wrong. The reason is that when \lambda=-1, the characteristic equation has a double root r=-1. Thus, the solution is y=c_1\exp(-x)+c_2x\exp(-x), and NOT y=c\exp(-x) as written earlier. Do you agree dextercioby?

I'm confused: To meet the initial condition y(0)=0, c_1 has to be zero. But if that's the case, then any value of c_2 meets the derivative at the boundary condition specified above and thus we loose uniqueness.
 
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Yes, that's the whole point of "eigenvalue". If &lambda; is not an eigenvalue, then the equation Ax= &lamda;x has a unique solution: x= 0. If &lambda; is an eigenvalue, then there exist an infinite number of solutions: the set of eigenvectors corresponding to a given eigenvalue is is a subspace of the original vectdor space.
 

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