Solve Farm Gate Problem: Horiz Force on Bottom Hinge

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The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on a farm gate, specifically determining the horizontal force exerted by the bottom hinge. The gate's dimensions, mass, and the tension in a guide wire are provided, along with the angle of the wire.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the external forces acting on the gate and suggest taking moments about the point of application of an unknown force to simplify the problem. There is also a mention of using equilibrium equations to relate the forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to set up equations based on the forces involved, with one participant expressing uncertainty about their method. Another participant reflects on a previous mistake related to the value of gravity used in calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the approach yet, but participants are engaging with the problem constructively.

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Participants note the lack of information in the textbook regarding similar problems, which may be contributing to the confusion. There is also a light-hearted reference to the annoyance of the gate, indicating a casual tone in the discussion.

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Old MacDonald had a farm, e i , e i , oh ! And
on that farm he had a gate, e i , e i , oh ! And
a squeak, squeak, here. A squeak, squeak,
there. And a squeak, squeak, everywhere . . .
The gate is ℓ = 3 m wide and h = 2.47 m
tall with hinges attached to the top and bot-
tom. The guide wire makes an angle of
α = 39 ◦ with the top of the gate and has
a tension of 221 N. The mass of the gate is
30.9 kg.

Determine the magnitude of the horizon-
tal force exerted on the gate by the bottom
hinge. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2 .
Answer in units of N.

Okay the reason why I am having problems with this is because well I am just not sure I know where to start. I think I am just missing something obvious, and my book does not have a whole lot to say about this type of problem. Any Help?
 
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Hi xRandomx210! :smile:

(ooh, that gate is really annoying :frown: … if i help with the question, will you please oil it?)

There are only four external forces on the gate.

You know 2 of them, and you want one of them, but you don't know the fourth one, and and you don't want to know it, so … standard trick … take moments about the point of application of that unknown force. :wink:
 
Sorry for being a noob, but what does oiling it mean?
 
Just tried something, don't know if it is right or not.

Σfx= TCos(Theta) = H1x+H2x

where Hx is the force of the hinge in the x direction

Σfy=TSin(theta) + Hy1 + Hy2 = mg

ΣT = mg(L/2)-Tsin(theta)L= Hx(h)

from there you can slove out, but is the method correct?
 
Never mind the reason i got it wrong the first time was because i used 9.81 instead of 9.8 :C
 

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