Solve for Period of Oscillation of 2 Springs with Mass Attached

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The discussion revolves around calculating the period of oscillation for a system involving two springs with different spring constants and a mass attached. The springs are arranged vertically, and the problem involves determining the effective spring constant and the resulting oscillation period.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations involving the displacements caused by the mass on each spring and the determination of the effective spring constant. There is also a follow-up question regarding the configuration of the springs when oriented in parallel and concerns about the stability of the system.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and are questioning the correctness of their approaches, particularly regarding the effective spring constant. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem when the springs are arranged in parallel, with some uncertainty about the implications of this configuration.

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Homework Statement


You have two springs with spring constants k_1 = 10 and k_2 = 20 vertically attached to a wall, and a mass of mass 3.00kg is hung from it. Find the period of oscillation.


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|| <== second spring, k_2 = 20
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{} <== mass 3.00kg

Homework Equations



F=-kx
T = 2pi/omega


The Attempt at a Solution




Consider the second spring. We have:
F=-kx \implies 3(-9.8) = -(20)(x) \implies x = 1.47

Now the second spring undergoes a displacement of:

F=-kx \implies 3(-9.8) = -(10)x \implies x = 2.94.

So k effective is:

F = -k (x_1+x_2) \implies 3(9.8) = k(2.94+1.47) \implies k = 4.41

From here, i just found \omega by using \omega =\sqrt{k}{m}. and the period was easy from there.

Is the first part of my solution correct? I am having trouble visualizing it.
 
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oneplusone said:
Consider the second spring. We have:
F=-kx \implies 3(-9.8) = -(20)(x) \implies x = 1.47

Now the second spring undergoes a displacement of:

F=-kx \implies 3(-9.8) = -(10)x \implies x = 2.94.
So far so good.

So k effective is:

F = -k (x_1+x_2) \implies 3(9.8) = k(2.94+1.47) \implies k = 4.41
4.41 is the total displacement, not the spring constant. Solve for the effective spring constant.
 
oops i meant 6.666. Thank you.

A follow up question to this has the same springs, except oriented like this:

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------With the springs parallel. How would you solve this? I am still not convinced that there is a solution (to me, the "block" will be tilted).
 
oneplusone said:
With the springs parallel. How would you solve this? I am still not convinced that there is a solution (to me, the "block" will be tilted).
Assume the system is constrained so that the springs get the same displacement.
 

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