Solve Friction Problem 2: Mass 53.75kg, Coeff. 0.86

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The problem involves determining the force required to move a desk with a mass of 53.75 kilograms, given a coefficient of static friction of 0.86. The discussion revolves around the concepts of friction, net force, and acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied force, frictional force, and acceleration. Questions arise regarding how to proceed without knowing the acceleration and the implications of applying a force equal to or greater than the maximum frictional force.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some provide insights into the conditions for constant velocity versus acceleration, while others clarify the calculations related to frictional force.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the forces at play, particularly in relation to static versus kinetic friction and the conditions under which the desk begins to move.

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Homework Statement


A desk has a mass of 53.75 kilograms. If the coefficient of static friction between the desk and the floor is 0.86, what force must be used to move the desk from rest?




2. The attempt at a solution
##V_0=0##
##m=53.75kg##
##u=.86##
##f=uN=umg=.86(53.75kg)(9.8\frac{m}{s^2})=453.005N##
##F##net##=ma##
##F-f=ma##
##F-453.005N=53.75kg χ a##
If I don't have the acceleration, how can I sort this ?
 
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If a force that has the same magnitude as the maximum frictional force is applied to the desk, then F_{net}=0. This means that any force applied that is greater will accelerate the object, ie move it.
 
So we would have to do with constant velocity and the force of friction would be equal to the applied force. So We would multiply coefficient with the mass and gravity of 9.81 and that would be the force?
 
-Physician said:
So we would have to do with constant velocity
If the force applied to accelerate the desk is constant, then the velocity would not be constant.
-Physician said:
So We would multiply coefficient with the mass and gravity of 9.81 and that would be the force?
Yes, any force greater than the force calculated will cause an acceleration.
 
Actually, if ##f=F## which is ##F_{net}=0##, then acceleration is 0 and the velocity is constant if we accelerate the body ##F>f##
 
Frictional force = μ * total reaction force

total reaction force = mass * gravitational force

You have worked out the force already in your attempt at a solution
 
-Physician said:
Actually, if ##f=F## which is ##F_{net}=0##, then acceleration is 0
I had already stated this in my first post.

-Physician said:
and the velocity is constant if we accelerate the body ##F>f##
Actually, if F>f then the object will have a constant acceleration. If after the object has begun to move that F=f then the velocity will be constant.

Make sense?
 

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