Solve LC Circuit Problem: Examples & Resources

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to an LC circuit, specifically focusing on finding the currents in the circuit after a switch is opened. Participants explore various methods and approaches to tackle the problem, including the use of Kirchhoff's laws, differential equations, and Laplace transforms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem and seeks examples or guidance to start solving it.
  • Another participant suggests using Kirchhoff's laws and differential equations or Laplace transforms for the analysis, favoring the Laplace method.
  • There is a proposal to simplify the circuit by replacing two inductors with a single equivalent inductor.
  • Participants discuss finding steady state conditions before the switch is opened and treating inductors as short circuits in that context.
  • One participant calculates an initial current through the inductor and seeks confirmation on the correctness of their calculation.
  • Another participant prompts a re-evaluation of the current calculation and asks about the circuit configuration after the switch opens.
  • After recalculating, a participant presents a new current value and questions the new circuit configuration with an inductor and resistor in series.
  • There is a discussion about the initial conditions immediately after the switch opens and the behavior of the RL circuit.
  • One participant derives a function for the current through the inductor and resistor, expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their results.
  • Several participants affirm the results of the calculations and emphasize the importance of indicating units in the final submission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to analyze the circuit and the calculations involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of all calculations or the final results, as some participants express uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various assumptions about circuit behavior, such as treating inductors as short circuits in steady state. There are unresolved aspects regarding the initial conditions and the specific circuit configuration after the switch is opened.

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Homework Statement



An image of the problem is attached. I have to find 2 currents in an LC circuit.

Homework Equations



V = L(di/dt)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I have no clue how to do this type of problem. Are there any examples problems similar to this online? Or can someone give me the necessary information to solve the problem. I’m not looking for anyone to solve the problem for me, I’m just looking for somewhere to start.
 

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You've only two recourses, Kirchhoff's laws and differential equations, or Laplace transforms to do the "differential stuff" algebraically. Personally I'd choose the Laplace route.
 
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gneill said:
You've only two recourses, Kirchhoff's laws and differential equations, or Laplace transforms to do the "differential stuff" algebraically. Personally I'd choose the Laplace route.
What’s the process for solving a problem like this though? This is the first RL circuit problem I’ve been assigned to do so I’m pretty lost.

I assume I can replace the two inductors on the right with one inductor with a value of 2/3H.

After that, I have no idea what to do. The closest thing I’ve seen to this problem online was a video of someone solving for the current as a function of time before a switch was closed. In this problem, they seem to want current after the switch is opened.
 
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I assume I can replace the two inductors on the right with one inductor with a value of 2/3H.
Sure. Might as well incorporate the 3 H inductor as well.
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After that, I have no idea what to do. The closest thing I’ve seen to this problem online was a video of someone solving for the current as a function of time before a switch was closed. In this problem, they seem to want current after the switch is opened.
Find the steady state conditions for the circuit before the switch is opened. When the switch opens you've got an RL series circuit with an initial current.
 
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gneill said:
Sure. Might as well incorporate the 3 H inductor as well.

Find the steady state conditions for the circuit before the switch is opened. When the switch opens you've got an RL series circuit with an initial current.
For steady state, I believe I have to treat inductors as short circuits.

I’ve simplified the circuit and then used current division and got a current of 55/23A through the inductor. If I did that right, I think this should be the initial current. What would I then do with that to get current as a function of time?
 

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Re-check your current calculation.

What does the part of the circuit of interest look like when the switch opens? Can it be simplified?
 
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gneill said:
Re-check your current calculation.

What does the part of the circuit of interest look like when the switch opens? Can it be simplified?
I re-did the calculation and got 60/23 or about 2.61 for the current through the inductor.

Would the new circuit just be an inductor of 11/3H in series with a resistor of 5 Ohms?
 
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I re-did the calculation and got 60/23 or about 2.61 for the current through the inductor.

Would the new circuit just be an inductor of 11/3H in series with a resistor of 5 Ohms?
Yes and yes. What are the initial conditions (the instant following switch opening)? What have you learned about the behavior of an RL circuit?
 
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gneill said:
Yes and yes. What are the initial conditions (the instant following switch opening)? What have you learned about the behavior of an RL circuit?
Looking through my notes I found the equation i(t) = i(0)e^(-(R/L)t), which gives me an answer of i(t) = 60/23e^(-15t/11) for the current through the inductor and -60/23e^(-15t/11) through the resistor. I’m not sure if that’s what you meant by initial conditions, or if my answers are correct.
 
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Yes, and your results look good. Be sure to indicate the units (amps) when you submit your results.
 
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gneill said:
Yes, and your results look good. Be sure to indicate the units (amps) when you submit your results.
Alright, thanks for the help.
 

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