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The discussion revolves around understanding the computation of the function F(x,y) = axy + bx + cy + d, as provided by the author. Participants express confusion about the implications of the partial derivatives, particularly why the sign is negative in the expression ∂F/∂x = h(y). There is also a debate about the definition of potential, with some members noting that the convention of using ∇F may vary but does not affect the underlying mathematics. Clarifications are sought regarding the conditions under which the potential exists and the relationships between the derivatives. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for deeper understanding of line integrals and potential functions in mathematical physics.
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Let g(x) and h(y) be differentiable functions, and let f(x, y) = h(y)i+ g(x)j. Can f have a potential F(x, y)? If so, find it.

You may assume that F would be smooth.
(Hint: Consider the mixed partial derivatives of F.)
I don't have any idea about how to use the hint given by the author.
Author has given the answer to this question i-e F(x,y) = axy + bx + cy +d.
I don't understand how did the author compute this answer.

Would any member of Physics Forums enlighten me in this regard?

Any math help will be accepted.
 
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Because
## - \dfrac{\partial F}{\partial x} = h(y) ##
then
## \dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} = 0 ##

And we also have
##\dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x \partial y } = \dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y \partial x } ##

If you just want to show that the potential exists, then show that ##\vec \nabla \times \vec f = 0 ##
 
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drmalawi said:
Because
## - \dfrac{\partial F}{\partial x} = h(y) ##
then
## \dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} = 0 ##

And we also have
##\dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x \partial y } = \dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y \partial x } ##
Why is the sign negative for ## \frac{\partial{F}}{\partial{x}}= h(y)?## Would you explain that ?
 
WMDhamnekar said:
Why is the sign negative for ## \frac{\partial{F}}{\partial{x}}= h(y)?## Would you explain that ?

Isn't the potential F(x,y) defined as ##\vec f = - \vec \nabla F## ?
 
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drmalawi said:
Isn't the potential F(x,y) defined as ##\vec f = - \vec \nabla F## ?
In the following corollary 4.6 ## \vec f \not= -\vec \nabla F ## Why?
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WMDhamnekar said:
In the following corollary 4.6 ## \vec f \not= -\vec \nabla F ## Why?
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Matter of convetion I guess, I have always used ##\vec f = - \vec \nabla F## as the definition as potential. But it does not matter, the math is the same, just follow your books conventions. And also -0 = 0 so...
 
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