Solve Maths Competition Problems: Sum a+b & Logarithm X

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The discussion revolves around two mathematical problems involving a repeating decimal and logarithmic equations. The first problem asks for the sum of two integers derived from the fraction representation of the repeating decimal 0.8451\bar{51}. The second problem involves solving for x in the equation log(log(log(log x))) = 0, where log denotes the base ten logarithm.

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  • Participants explore methods for converting the repeating decimal into a fraction and question how to break down the decimal into manageable parts. There is also discussion on the steps to solve the logarithmic equation, with one participant reflecting on a mistake made during mental calculations.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problems, particularly in breaking down the repeating decimal and clarifying the logarithmic steps. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, and there is an ongoing exchange of ideas without explicit consensus.

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Participants express uncertainty about the methods to convert the repeating decimal and the logarithmic calculations. There is a reference to external resources for further clarification on fractions from repeating decimals.

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these are numbers i could not solve. please help me.

Homework Statement



1) If the repeating decimal 0.8451[tex]\bar{51}[/tex] is represented by the fraction a/b, where a and b are positive integers with no common factors greater than 1, find the sum a + b.

2) if log(log(log(log x))) = 0 and log represents the base ten logarith, what is the value of x.


The Attempt at a Solution



1) i don't understand how to proceed. some hints would be appreciated.

2)i kno that if, logba = x

then, a = bx

i got 10100 as answer but the paper says the answer is 1010,000,000,000 is the answer.



thanks
 
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For b why don't you show us how you can your answer, writing out every step in full.

For a, it is the same as finding a number 0.51515151... (and then adding 84 and dividing by 100). Do you know how you would find such a number?
 
2) log(log(log(log x))) = 0

log(log(log x)) = 100 = 1

log(log x) = 101 = 10

log x = 1010

x = 101010oooh ok... now i see my mistake! i tried doing the calculation in my head... so foolish of my parterrm, for #1
d'you mean that i should break the 0.8451515151 into 0.84 + 0.005151515151 ?!

thnks
 
Kushal said:
errm, for #1
d'you mean that i should break the 0.8451515151 into 0.84 + 0.005151515151 ?!

thnks

Yes that's how I would approach the problem. Now can you find a fraction to represent 0.005151515... ?
If you don't know how, you should read the section entitled "Fraction from a repeating decimal" here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_decimal
 

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