Trigonometry: if a = sinx+cosx and b=tanx+cotx, then a(b^2-1)-2 = ?

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric expression involving the variables a and b, defined as a = sin(x) + cos(x) and b = tan(x) + cot(x). Participants are attempting to simplify the expression a(b^2 - 1) - 2.

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  • Participants are exploring the simplification of b^2 - 1 and its relation to a. There are attempts to rewrite b in a different form and to evaluate the expression for specific values of x. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the problem statement.

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Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants suggesting that the expression may simplify to zero. Guidance has been offered regarding checking specific values of x and reconsidering the definitions of a and b.

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There is uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the problem statement, with participants questioning whether it was printed correctly. This has led to discussions about potential errors in the definitions of a and b.

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Homework Statement
if a = sinx+cosx and b=tanx+cotx, then the value of a(b^2-1)-2 is
Relevant Equations
sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)
b^2-1= tan^2(x) + cot^2(x) + 2 -1
b^2-1= sin^2(x)/cos^2(x) +cos^2(x)/sin^2(x) -1
b^2-1=[sin^4(x) +cos^4(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1
b^2-1=[1-sin^2(x)cos^2(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1
a(b^2-1)=sinx+cosx {[1-sin^2(x)cos^2(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1 }
I am not able to go any further than this step to reach the answer
 
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Crystal037 said:
Homework Statement: if a = sinx+cosx and b=tanx+cotx, then the value of a(b^2-1)-2 is
Homework Equations: sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)

b^2-1= tan^2(x) + cot^2(x) + 2 -1
b^2-1= sin^2(x)/cos^2(x) +cos^2(x)/sin^2(x) -1
b^2-1=[sin^4(x) +cos^4(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1
b^2-1=[1-sin^2(x)cos^2(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1
a(b^2-1)=sinx+cosx {[1-sin^2(x)cos^2(x)]/sin^2(x)cos^2(x) -1 }
I am not able to go any further than this step to reach the answer
I am not sure what answer you are looking for, but this might help. What do get when you write ##b## in the form ##b = \frac {? + ?} {sin(x)cos(x)}##?
 
I'll get sin^2(x)+cos^2(x) which is 1
 
the answer should be 0
But I don't know how to further proceed please give me a hint
 
Crystal037 said:
the answer should be 0
But I don't know how to further proceed please give me a hint
Did you make an error when you copied or typed the the problem?

If you interchange the definitions for ##a## and ##b## you will get the desired result.
 
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Crystal037 said:
the answer should be 0
But I don't know how to further proceed please give me a hint
Did you not try some values of ##x## to see whether you get 0? If the expression is identically 0, then that means it's 0 for every value of ##x##.

Why not try at least one value of ##x##?
 
Thank you, I think the question is wrongly printed
 

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