Solve ODE Exact Equations: Initial Value Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem involving exact differential equations, specifically the equation (2x-y)dx + (2y-x)dy = 0 with the initial condition y(1) = 3.

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  • Participants discuss checking the exactness of the differential equation and the formulation of a potential function. There are attempts to derive the solution and questions about the manipulation of the solution into a specific form.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the steps to take after establishing exactness, while others have pointed out discrepancies in the constants involved. The discussion includes exploration of different interpretations of the solution and the implications of the initial condition.

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There is mention of a potential confusion regarding the constant of integration and the need to select the correct branch of the solution based on the initial condition provided.

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Can you guys point me in the right direction on the problem below?

Solve the given initial value problem and determine at least approx. where the solution is valid:

(2x-y)dx + (2y-x)dy= o, y(1)=3

So I have My =-1 and Nx= -1

x^2-xy+ h(y) => -x+h'(y) = 2y-x => h(y)= y^2

=> x^2 -xy+ y^2

where would I go from here to solve the initial value prob?
 
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You have the right idea but is written poorly and that is why you don't have an equation in your last step. After you have checked exactness you should arrange your work like this. You have an unknown function f(x,y) satisfying this exact differential and you know

fx(x,y) = 2x - y
(*) f(x,y) = x2 - xy + h(y)
Differentiating this with respect to y and using the equation:
-x + h'(y) = 2y - x
h'(y) = 2y
h(y) = y2 + C

Substitute his in for the h(y) in (*) above which gives

f(x,y) = x2 - xy + y2 + C

This is the function that satisfies df(x,y) = 0 so your solution is

x2 - xy + y2 + C = 0

Now use your initial conditions. Notice at each step of the writeup you have an equation with an = and two sides. No sloppy use of => symbol.
 
Thanks. I found c to be 7. But the answer in the text states y as = (x + sqrt(28-3x^2))/2. Do you have any idea how they manipulated into that?
 
C is -7, not 7. The text is correct. Use the quadratic formula and solve for y in the equation y2 - (x)y + (x2 - 7) = 0.

Your solution does not define a function; it is a formal solution (according to Spiegel's Applied Differential Equations) only because it satisfies the original differential equation. The way you have it now, (1, 3) and (1, -2) are both points on the curve: (1)2 - (1)(3) + (3)2 - 7 = 1 - 3 + 9 - 7 = 0 = 1 + 2 + 4 - 7 = (1)2 - (1)(-2) + (-2)2 - 7. The initial value problem states y(1) = 3 only, so take the positive branch.
 
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got it now, thanks
 

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