Solve Probability Question Homework: Ex, Var X

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The problem involves a random variable X that takes on discrete values defined by a sequence starting from a and increasing by Δ up to a+nΔ, with equal probabilities. The questions posed are to find the expected value (E[X]) and the variance (Var[X]) of this random variable.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the expected value using a transformed variable X' and question the validity of their calculations. They explore the implications of summing to n+1 versus n and express confusion regarding discrepancies between their results and the answer key provided by the professor.

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Some participants have attempted to derive E[X] through various summation techniques and transformations, but they are encountering consistent discrepancies with the expected results. There is ongoing exploration of the calculations, with no clear consensus on the correct approach or resolution yet.

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Participants note that the professor's answer key lacks detailed work, leading to uncertainty about the correctness of their own solutions. There is also mention of a lack of recent experience with relevant calculus concepts, which may be affecting their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Random variable X takes values a,a+Δ,a+2Δ,...,a+nΔ with equal probabilities. (a) What is Ex? (b) What is Var X?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



X = [a,a+Δ,a+2Δ,...,a+nΔ]
X = a+(X'-1)Δ
where X' is some random variable
X' = [1,2,...,n+1]
I test to make sure this is true
X = [a+(1-1)Δ,a+(2-1)Δ,a+(3-1)Δ...,a+(n+1-1)Δ]=[a,a+Δ,a+2Δ...,a+nΔ]
So it's true.

E[X] = E[a+(X'-1)Δ] = a+(E[X']-1)Δ

E[X']=[itex]\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}[/itex]X'P(X')

Since X has equal probabilities then X' has equal probabilities so it's just
P(X') = [itex]\frac{1}{number of entities}[/itex]
number of entities in this case is n+1 so
E[X']=[itex]\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}[/itex]X'([itex]\frac{1}{n+1})[/itex]
So I can pull out the constant from the summation
=[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}X'=\frac{1}{n+1}(1+2+...+n+1)[/itex]
I know that the quantity 1+2+...+n+1 can be expressed as [itex]1+\frac{(n+1)n}{2}[/itex] so...
[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}(1+\frac{(n+1)n}{2}) = \frac{1}{n+1}+\frac{n}{2}[/itex]

however the answer key which my professor made up says that it should be [itex]\frac{n}{2}+1[/itex]. However I don't see how my answer is wrong.

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide me in solving this problem. My professor didn't show in the answer key how hey got this and just wrote it without showing any work. I think he may be wrong.
 
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GreenPrint said:

Homework Statement



Random variable X takes values a,a+Δ,a+2Δ,...,a+nΔ with equal probabilities. (a) What is Ex? (b) What is Var X?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



X = [a,a+Δ,a+2Δ,...,a+nΔ]
X = a+(X'-1)Δ
where X' is some random variable
X' = [1,2,...,n+1]
I test to make sure this is true
X = [a+(1-1)Δ,a+(2-1)Δ,a+(3-1)Δ...,a+(n+1-1)Δ]=[a,a+Δ,a+2Δ...,a+nΔ]
So it's true.

E[X] = E[a+(X'-1)Δ] = a+(E[X']-1)Δ

E[X']=[itex]\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}[/itex]X'P(X')

Since X has equal probabilities then X' has equal probabilities so it's just
P(X') = [itex]\frac{1}{number of entities}[/itex]
number of entities in this case is n+1 so
E[X']=[itex]\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}[/itex]X'([itex]\frac{1}{n+1})[/itex]
So I can pull out the constant from the summation
=[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}X'=\frac{1}{n+1}(1+2+...+n+1)[/itex]
I know that the quantity 1+2+...+n+1 can be expressed as [itex]1+\frac{(n+1)n}{2}[/itex] so...
[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}(1+\frac{(n+1)n}{2}) = \frac{1}{n+1}+\frac{n}{2}[/itex]

however the answer key which my professor made up says that it should be [itex]\frac{n}{2}+1[/itex]. However I don't see how my answer is wrong.

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide me in solving this problem. My professor didn't show in the answer key how hey got this and just wrote it without showing any work. I think he may be wrong.

[tex]\sum_{i=0}^n i = \sum_{i=1}^n i = \frac{1}{2}n(n+1).[/tex]
 
But I want to sum to n+1 and not n. How does this effect the answer? I haven't taken calculus 2 in several semesters. I remember some change of base thing.

[itex]\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}X'=\sum^{n}_{X'=0}(X'-1)[/itex]

Is this correct?
 
So now that I think of it using the information you provided

[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}X'=\frac{1}{n+1}\sum [1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n+1] = \frac{1}{n+1}(1+[1+ 2+ 3 + ... + n]) = \frac{1}{n+1}(1+\frac{1}{2}n(n+1))=\frac{1}{n+1}+.5 n[/itex]

I still get the same answer
 
GreenPrint said:
So now that I think of it using the information you provided

[itex]\frac{1}{n+1}\sum^{n+1}_{X'=1}X'=\frac{1}{n+1}\sum [1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n+1] = \frac{1}{n+1}(1+[1+ 2+ 3 + ... + n]) = \frac{1}{n+1}(1+\frac{1}{2}n(n+1))=\frac{1}{n+1}+.5 n[/itex]

I still get the same answer

It is still wrong. Start again, and do not bother to look at X'; just go with the original X.
 
What am I doing wrong though? I can't seem to find what it is exactly that I am doing wrong.
 

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