Solve Projectile Question: Initial Velocity?

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem where the goal is to determine the initial velocity of a projectile given its maximum height and horizontal distance traveled. Participants are exploring the principles of kinematics related to projectile motion.

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  • Participants discuss the need to break down the initial velocity into its x and y components, noting that the x-component remains constant while the y-component changes due to gravity. Questions arise about how to calculate the initial y-component of velocity at the highest point, considering the velocity is zero at that point and the effects of gravitational acceleration.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various approaches to calculate the initial velocity components and questioning assumptions related to the time of flight and the relationship between height and velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic equations and the relationship between maximum height and time.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem, which does not provide flight time or initial angle, leading to further exploration of the relationships between height, time, and velocity components.

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the question gives you the distance the projectile goes and how high it was at its highest points - they want to know what the initial velocity was. can someone get me started on how to approach this question? thanks.
 
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The velocity of the projectile changes along it's path. Therefore you need to get the initial x and y velocity components of the projectile. The x-component do not change and can be calculated if you had the flight time of the projectile (which you don't). The flight time is double the time for the projectile to reach its maximum height.
 
how do you figure out the initial y component of the velocity at the highest point? i konw that its velocity at the highest point is 0 and it has -9.8 for acceleration due to gravity but what else can i use to solve in the y direction?
 
If you know the maximum height something reaches, then you can figure out how long it took to get up there and how long it takes to fall back down. These two times should be equal and are half of the total trip time (assuming the object takes off and lands at the same height).

If the object starts from rest,
The change in height = ½ at^2,
Where a is the acceleration due to gravity (-9.81 m/s^2) and t is the time.
If you know the max height of the object, calculate how long it takes to fall back down to earth, then double it to get the total trip time.
As long as we are on the subject of falling back down to earth, we also know that the objects final downward speed when hitting the ground will be the same as its initial upward speed when taking off. So to calculate the initial and final Y velocity,
V = a*t, where a is again the gravitational acceleration and t is the time the object accelerates which you just found earlier.

Now that you know the total trip time of the object, and you also know the X distanced traveled, you can compute its initial X velocity,
v = distance / time

Now if you want to go even further and get the initial velocity and the angle above the horizon it was pointed at, you can use the Pythagorean theorem,
v = sqrt(v_x^2 + v_y^2),
the angle above the horizon will be,
arctan (v_y / v_x)
 
dnt said:
how do you figure out the initial y component of the velocity at the highest point? i konw that its velocity at the highest point is 0 and it has -9.8 for acceleration due to gravity but what else can i use to solve in the y direction?
You can determine the initial y velocity component, [itex]v_{yo}[/itex], of the projectile by using the given height, [itex]h[/itex], and noting that the velocity of the projectile is momentarily zero at the top of its trajectory:
[tex]v_y^2=v_{yo}^2-2gy[/tex]
 
Theta = tan^-1(2H/R) where R is range and H is maximum height.
You can use this formula if only theta is asked. I added this because this formula was not mentioned by others.
 

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