Solve Ratio Test Problem: ∞ Ʃ (n!)^3/3(n)!

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The discussion revolves around applying the ratio test to the series ∞ Ʃ ((n!)^3)/(3(n)!) to determine its convergence. Participants are exploring the steps involved in the ratio test and the simplifications of factorial expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants describe their attempts to apply the ratio test, including the manipulation of factorial terms and the calculation of limits. Questions arise regarding the correctness of term reductions and the process of taking limits.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the factorial manipulations, with some participants pointing out potential errors in the original poster's work. Guidance has been offered to help correct misunderstandings, and there is a mix of interpretations about the limit's value.

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Participants note the importance of accurately handling factorial expressions and the distinction between different forms of factorials, which may affect the outcome of the limit calculation.

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Ʃ (((n)!)^3)/(3(n))! Use the ratio test to solve
n=1


So first i put it into form of (n!)^3/3n!, then applied ratio test.

from ratio got ((n+1)!)^3/(3n+1)! times (3n)!/(n!)^3

from here I am on shaky ground

i go reduce the terms to (n!)^3(n+1)^3/(3n!)(3n+1) times (3n!)/(n!)^3

i then end with lim n->∞ (n+1)^3/(3n+1)

My main two questions are did i reduce terms correctly and cancel, and how to take the limit of the remaining term.
 
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Forgot to mention on my calculator it says the limit goes to infinity but i need to know how to actually show steps, etc
 
BigJon said:

Ʃ (((n)!)^3)/(3(n))! Use the ratio test to solve
n=1


So first i put it into form of (n!)^3/3n!, then applied ratio test.

from ratio got ((n+1)!)^3/(3n+1)! times (3n)!/(n!)^3

from here I am on shaky ground

i go reduce the terms to (n!)^3(n+1)^3/(3n!)(3n+1) times (3n!)/(n!)^3

i then end with lim n->∞ (n+1)^3/(3n+1)

My main two questions are did i reduce terms correctly and cancel, and how to take the limit of the remaining term.

You are being a bit too sloppy. There is a difference between 3n+1 and 3(n+1).
 
Sorry i attached a pic of the actual prob if that would help

Also i don't see where i have that problem i took (3n+1)! to (3n!)(3n+1)
 

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BigJon said:
Sorry i attached a pic of the actual prob if that would help

Also i don't see where i have that problem i took (3n+1)! to (3n!)(3n+1)

You do have that problem. (3n+1)!/(3n)! is (3n+1). (3(n+1))!/(3n)! is not the same thing.
 
Okay i worked it again and tried to follow what you said hopefully

I attached a pic of my work, srry for the sloppiness :P
 

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BigJon said:
Okay i worked it again and tried to follow what you said hopefully

I attached a pic of my work, srry for the sloppiness :P

Yeah, I think you've got it. The limit isn't infinity, right?
 
No I am getting 1/27 when i divided the highest terms
 

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