Solve Relativity Problems: Answering Qs on Electron Momentum & Collision Energy

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The discussion revolves around two relativity problems involving an electron's relativistic momentum and the energy produced from an electron-positron collision. The context includes concepts from special relativity, particularly relating to momentum and energy transformations during particle interactions.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the relativistic momentum of an electron and the energy of electromagnetic radiation resulting from a collision between an electron and positron. Participants question the correctness of the original poster's calculations and the assumptions made regarding energy transformations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, providing feedback on the accuracy of the results and discussing the implications of energy conservation in particle collisions. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's answers, but some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of energy in the context of the collision.

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Participants note the importance of units in verifying calculations and question the assumptions about the energy contributions from kinetic and rest mass energies in the collision scenario. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the formulas and concepts being discussed, indicating a potential gap in understanding.

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I need help with two of these questions.

1. An electron is traveling at 0.866c, with respect to the face of a television picture tube. What is the value of its relativistic momentum to the tube?

Im not goin to post every single step but i'll post my answer.

p=mv/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
p=9.11 x 10^-31 x (0.866 x 3.00 x 10^8)/sqrt(0.250044)
p=4.74 x 10^-22

Thats the answer i get but in my book, they have 1.58 x 10^-30.

2. The electron and positron each have a rest mass of 9.11 x 10^-31 kg. In a certain experiment, an electron and positron collide and vanish, leaving only electromagnetic radiation after the interaction. Each particle is moving at a speed of 0.20c relative to the laboratory before the collision. Determine the energy of the electromagnetic radiation.

First of all do i have to solve this question like a collision problem, if i do there is no after situation.

Anyways i think i have to solve for Ek.

So Et=Ek + Erest

Et=mc^2/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
Et=9.11 x 10^-31 x (3.00 x 10^8)^2/sqrt(0.96)
Et=8.37 x 10^-14
Erest = 8.2 x 10^-14
Ek= 8.37 x 10^-14 - 8.2 x 10^-14
Ek= 1.7 x 10^-15

But this answer isn't right. In my book they have 0.615 MeV and when i convert my answer to that i don't get that answer. So what did i do wrong ,cant anyone help me please.
 
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1. Did your textbook provide an answer for p/c? It looks like they dropped a factor of c.

2. Since the rest energy of an electron is 0.511 MeV then the annihilation of an electron positron pair must yield a photon of at least twice that energy (1.022 MeV). For the parameters you've given the result should be 1.043 MeV with the extra energy being provided by the kinetic energy of the electron and positron.

What textbook are you using?
 
I'm using the Grade 12 nelson physics book.

So is my answer for number 1 correct?

For number 2 if i do:

Ek=2(8.37 x 10^-14) - 2(8.2 x 10^-14) would this be right that way I am taking into account both the positron and electron or does one of these energies cancel out because they have to be going in opposite directions to cancel out.
 
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#1 looks good to me.

In #2 all of the energy initially present (kinetic plus rest) is transformed into electromagnetic radiation so [itex]E = 2 \gamma m_0 c^2[/itex].
 
Actually, your answer to #1 is incorrect, since it lacks units. I say this not to be a smartass, but because units are one of the ways of checking and verifying. For example, your answer should be in kg m/sec. If the book's answer is simply in kg, you know they've divided by a velocity (for whatever reason). But if the book states 1.58 x 10^-30 kg m /sec, then the book is in error.
 
Hey Tide I've never seen that formula before. It's not in any of the sections that relate to that question i asked. I'll check my whole book but i don't know what that gamma symbol is.
 
gamma is the common symbol used in relativity:


gamma = 1 / sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
 

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