Solve Satellite Velocity Homework: Find Moon's Velocity

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The problem involves calculating the velocity of a moon in circular orbit around a distant planet, given the planet's gravitational acceleration and the height of the moon above the planet's surface. The subject area is gravitational physics and orbital mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational acceleration and orbital velocity, referencing relevant equations such as a = v²/r and GM/r². Some express uncertainty about the correct application of these equations and seek clarification on gravitational concepts.

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Several participants have offered insights and alternative approaches to the problem, including the use of Newton's law of gravitation. There is an ongoing exploration of different equations and methods, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the value of gravitational acceleration and the teaching style of the instructor, which may be affecting participants' understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


On the surface of a distant planet, objects experience an acceleration due to gravity of 20 m/s2. The distance from the center of the planet to its surface is 8.0 * 106 m. Find the velocity of a moon that is circular orbit about the planet at a height of 300,000 m above the planet's surface.

Homework Equations


a = v2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


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20 = v2/(8e6 + 300,000) = 12,884.1

I know this isn't right because my teacher said the acceleration due to gravity should not be 20. But I don't know how to solve it another way. Could anyone shed some insight?
 
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The acceleration is caused by the gravity of the planet. Can you write the equation for gravitational acceleration at the specified height?
 
Bandersnatch said:
The acceleration is caused by the gravity of the planet. Can you write the equation for gravitational acceleration at the specified height?

The only formula I can think to use would be a = v2/r which would leave me with a = v2/ (8e6 + 300,000) and then I'm still completely lost
 
What equations were introduced when you talked about gravity in class? Look in your notes, or use the internet. Here's a hint: it's all Newton's idea.
 
I suppose you mean the F = GMm/r2 equation? My teacher doesn't really teach so it's mostly us students trying to guess at things. So it would become:
GM/r = v2 leaving me with (6.67e-11)(M)/(8e6+300,000) = v2?

I'm sorry thank you for your patience
 
Actually could you solve it so that:

a= v2/r
20= v2/8e6
v2= 160,000,000
v= 12,649.1 m/s

GM/r= v2
(6.67e-11)(M)/8e6 = 12649.12
6.67e-11M= 1.28e15
M = 1.92e25

GM/r = v2
(6.67e-11)(1.92e25)/(8e6+300,000)= v2
154293975.9 = v2
12421.5 m/s = v

Was this what you were getting at? I was staring at it a little more and the idea came to mind but I'm not really sure if it works out.
 
physicaled said:
I'm not really sure if it works out.
That's pretty much what I had in mind, yes. :)
Looks about right. I'll go over the numbers later, though, I have to go now. But should be fine.
 
Bandersnatch said:
That's pretty much what I had in mind, yes. :)
Looks about right. I'll go over the numbers later, though, I have to go now. But should be fine.
No worries! Thank you so much for your help!
 
Yup, numbers look good too.
Myself, I'd probably write ##ma=\frac{GMm}{R^2}##, get the mass of the planet from there, and then plug it into ##V=\sqrt{\frac{GM}{R+r}}##. Saves you an equation, and is more straightforward reasoning-wise.

Do you understand why you used those equations?
 

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